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                    <title>Bert H. on Early 3 digit 1895 flat side acquisition </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The 38-72 case can be made using a 405 WCF case, but you will need to turn down the rim from .543" to .519".  The case lengths are identical as is the base diameter.  Simply squeeze the neck from .436" down to .397" and reduce the rim diameter.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2026 01:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Early 3 digit 1895 flat side acquisition </title>
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<p><strong>Rick C said </strong><br />
Bill if I can acquire some reloads, a range report will follow. With the cost of original cartridges, it might be a one shot report 😊<br />
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<p>Rick-</p>
<p>Good luck finding brass. I understand it's based on the 405 Winchester but Venturino was able to obtain brass from Bertram when he wrote about the 38-72 in "Shooting Leverguns of the Old West". Interestingly, his loaner test gun was an early flatside very much like yours!</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2026 00:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Rick C on Early 3 digit 1895 flat side acquisition </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Bill if I can acquire some reloads, a range report will follow. With the cost of original cartridges, it might be a one shot report 😊</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2026 00:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Early 3 digit 1895 flat side acquisition </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>.379 - noted. Thanks.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2026 23:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Winchester letter question??</title>
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<p><strong>helidriver72 said </strong><br />
Heres the correct info, I’m pretty excited to see that the Lyman model 21 receiver sight letters. I suspected it would since it had the platinum dots on the yardage marks.<br />
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WINCHESTER MODEL 1895 - SERIAL NUMBER 9304<br />
Serial number applied on June 14, 1898<br />
Type: Rifle<br />
Caliber: 30<br />
Sights: Lyman receiver and front<br />
Received in warehouse on September 06, 1898<br />
Shipped from warehouse on September 09, 1898, Order number 4873<br />
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<p>That is great news. You.scored a real bargain. It's all right as rain. And shootable, to boot, in a good, useful caliber. For example, the 300 Savage is a fairly flat shooting 30 caliber cartridge for moderate range hunting - say up to around 250 real yards - of big deer. Lots of Elk and Moose have fallen to it and not a few of the big bears. The 30 Krag beats it ballistically, in every way. </p>
<p>With your kind of luck, you might could hire out as a Casino guide. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2026 23:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Early 3 digit 1895 flat side acquisition </title>
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<p><strong>Zebulon said </strong><br />
Is the bullet diameter .375? If so, those shouldn't be too hard to make up. <br />
You are truly fortunate to have such a grand piece of history and I'm very pleased you got it. <br />
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<p>Bill,</p>
<p>Like the 38-55 and the 38-56, the 38-72 WCF was loaded with a .379 diameter bullet.  </p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2026 23:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>helidriver72 on Winchester letter question??</title>
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<p><strong>kevindpm61 said </strong><br />
Congrats! What do you intend to do with her? She would make a fine hunting rifle.<br />
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<p>Oh ya thats my plan! Hopin to add a few more notches👍</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2026 23:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Early 3 digit 1895 flat side acquisition </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Rick,  Now that you've got us all fired up, a range report would be satisfying to read about. </p>
<p>I've always thought the flatside '95 was especially sleek and would carry well in a scabbard.  There are those who find the Model 1895 "awkward to carry" - some people would complain about being hung with a new rope. As you well know, like the Savage 1895/99,  Browning's last lever gun for Winchester was way ahead of its time and quickly adopted by lots of notable outdoorsmen and Lawmen. A number of the Texas Rangers were quick to trade in their pistol cartridge carbines at Petmecky's in Austin for a 95 Krag SRC. </p>
<p>You probably already know this but I just learned WRA and Savage went head to head in a military rifle competition, 95 against 99. Nobody got a contract because of politics. </p>
<p>When Brad sees this thread, he surely will give us a number of the flatsides produced.  </p>
<p>Do I recall correctly that the 38/72 is based on the shorter 45-70 length case and not the longer 45-90?  Is the bullet diameter .375? If so, those shouldn't be too hard to make up. </p>
<p>You are truly fortunate to have such a grand piece of history and I'm very pleased you got it. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2026 23:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Rick C on Early 3 digit 1895 flat side acquisition </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tim appreciate your comments and you are correct about very few(only 287 from what I read but maybe Brad or Rob has the exact number) left the factory in 1895. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2026 20:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>kevindpm61 on Winchester letter question??</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Congrats! What do you intend to do with her? She would make a fine hunting rifle.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2026 19:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Heres the correct info, I’m pretty excited to see that the Lyman model 21 receiver sight letters. I suspected it would since it had the platinum dots on the yardage marks.</p>
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<p>WINCHESTER MODEL 1895 - SERIAL NUMBER 9304</p>
<p>Serial number applied on June 14, 1898</p>
<p>Type: Rifle</p>
<p>Caliber: 30</p>
<p>Sights: Lyman receiver and front</p>
<p>Received in warehouse on September 06, 1898</p>
<p>Shipped from warehouse on September 09, 1898, Order number 4873</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2026 18:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>tim tomlinson on Early 3 digit 1895 flat side acquisition </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The folks who can and do download, and then manipulate pictures will see a much better photo than I am able.  From what I see, I would be very happy to own the rifle!  Due to problems (slam firing amongst them, if I recall correctly) very, very few got out in 1895, so 1896 is the real start of serious production.  Right fine piece!  Bet Mark would be trying to own it as well!  Tim</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2026 17:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Rick C on Early 3 digit 1895 flat side acquisition </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kem And Tony. It might be a little bit overcast in the next few days here and my plan is to try and get some better photos. It really is 85% – 90% condition imo. Original varnish and sights with a nice shiny bore and strong rifling. I had to give up a really nice octagon 2nd variation 1890 and a few thousand cash but I couldn’t decline, especially an early three digit example. As you stated Tony, they’re hard to find and I wouldn’t probably have the opportunity again.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2026 17:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on Early 3 digit 1895 flat side acquisition </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Rick,</p>
<p>Congrats and thanks for sharing! </p>
<p>That's a very nice early Flat side M-1895 rifle. As you're well aware of, and as you know their hard to find with that much finish on the metal. It's hard to find a nice flat side in any caliber. </p>
<p>As far as the pics. go yeah I can understand the picture comments, but we've seen a lot worse. You can always throw more up on this thread at a later date when time allows and the weather is cooperative! You wouldn't hurt anyone's feelings. <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" /></p>
<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2026 16:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>kem@meyersandshaulis.com on Early 3 digit 1895 flat side acquisition </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Nice looking 1895!  Flatsides are my favorite.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2026 15:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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