Deer Hunter,

 I will buy your 1873 book for $ 85.00 shipped.

 Send your info VIA  E mail: cisco1@att.net

 Best,  Chuck Ellison

Jack

This came on an extensively modified rifle that currently has a .22 Douglas barrel on it.  It was from the estate of Chuck Bordman from the Tacoma Rifle and Revolver club.

Jack

Roger Adam said

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Roger Adam said
Michael,
I have several model 1892 rifles and carbines that I could probably add to your survey. 
The only one that is a little unusual is serial number 497370.  Its a solid frame octagon barrel, 25-20 rifle.  The somewhat unusual feature that you might want to capture in your survey is the upper tang stamping for which I've attached a picture.  According to George Madis in the Winchester Book this tang marking is rarely found, and only on those guns intended for export.  If you don't have this rifle in your survey, let me know and I'll send you a complete set of photos.
  

Good morning Roger,
I have seen that rifle for sale twice.  First on Gunbroker out of Oyster Bay NY in Mar of 2024 and then on Guns International in Aug of 2025 by RW Outdoors in MT.  I REALLY do not agree with Madis on why the tang is marked as such.  Here is my take on these rifles:   
I do have to disagree that the tang marking has anything to do with export of rifles to Britain.   The tang stamp style on your rifle, with or without the small "MOD 1892" stamped across the tang, is found between SN 476000 and 502000.  Roughly 25,000 rifles This corresponds to production from 1909 for the Model 1892.  The earlier guns with the style do not have any MOD 1892 added to the tang whereas the later examples in this range do have it.  Those early gun are indeed lacking any Model designation on them.  The majority of the rifle in this range are sporting rifles in 25-20 WCF caliber.  I have catalogued right at 200 rifles with this tang stamp style and not a single one has any foreign proof stamps!  I know Madis claims the tang style was used for export guns but the data does not support that claim.   
It is interesting to note also that during 1909 this identical tang stamp style was begun to be used on the Model 1890 slide action .22 caliber rifles.  Those rifles already had the Model designation being applied to the barrel so there were no Model 1890 rifles produced without model designations.  This style was used until 1915 for the Model 1890's.  Certainly, Winchester did not intend to export the entirety of 6 years worth of 1890 production.
It is my belief that the use of this tang stamp style on the Model 1892 rifles was a production error.  I will be the first to admit that 25,000 rifles with an "error" is a bit hard to believe but the export idea does not make sense either.
Michael
  

Michael, thanks for the education.  I've certainly come to appreciate that not all published firearms information stated as fact is necessarly correct!  Sometimes an author's best guess or opinion carries more weight than it deserves.  I'd be interested to know if your survey of Model 1892 rifles in this serial number range (476000-502000) all carry this same upper tang marking or if it's rarely found as Madis suggests.
Thanks
Roger
  

Hello Roger,

This answer took more than a few minutes of spreadsheet number crunching.  Within that serial number range I have 468 rifles documented.  Of those I have 405 that I was able to capture the tang stamp style in my data.  Within the 405 rifles 23 have the previous tang stamp style #2 and 26 have the next more common style #3.  Therefore, you can calculate/extrapolate that some 88% of the rifles within that almost 22,700 SN interval have the same tang stamp as your rifle.  I have attached a small portion of my data so that you can visually see the tang stamp dominance in blue and images of the Type 2 (earlier common style) 2A (the Export stamp of Madis) and the Style 3 which is the nest style most commonly found on Model 1892's.

Michael

Here's a link to the auction. It's in Northern Michigan.    John Peck Auctions

Jon

Winchester exported a very substantial number of rifles to England (U.K.), nearly all of which were sold directly to J. Kerr & Sons.  The Parker Hale sights were installed on the Winchester rifles while they were in the U.K.

Bert

The very early production Model 1886s were equipped with a "single-set" trigger (similar to the Model 1876) when special ordered.  Most of the Model 1886s were made with the much more common "close-coupled" set trigger, often referred to (incorrectly) as a "double-set".  That "pin" is actually a slotted screw, and turning it adjusts the amount of pull weight needed to release the trigger.

Bert

Honest Jon said
Well thanks once again Bert and I just realized this should have gone under Winchester Shotguns in the forum. I have a hard time relating 1885 SS to shotguns😵‍💫!
  

The specific category for these is not really a concern, as they were a "specialty" variation of the Single Shot rifles.  Many years ago I wrote an article discussing them.

Fall 2016 (winchestercollector.org)

Bert

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Thanks

Jack

The small serrated tab is the Take Down locking device.

Take Down

Solid Frame

Can you provide the serial number on the gun you looked at?  Thus far, I have documented just (107) high-wall 20-ga shotguns.

Bert