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                    <title>ika-jkim on Winchester 1886 Breech bolt pin stuck</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hey everyone!</p>
<p>I recently got an 1886, and wanted to learn how to take it apart, this was my first try, I got to the part where I need to knock out the pin on the breech bolt that connects it to the hand lever, but the pin just won't come out, I hit it with a brass punch and hammer a few times, but it's pretty firm in there, I tried adding some clp on there and letting it soak for a bit to see if that'd loosen it, but it didn't. I hit the punch pretty hard a few times to see if maybe I was just being too soft, but the pin won't budge.</p>
<p>When taking it apart the carrier and carrier hook did fall out before I managed to remove the pin, but I don't think that impacts it in any way. </p>
<p>I wanted to see if anyone has any tips or insight on what might be the issue before I have to take it to either a gunsmith, or a winchester repair center, which is about 2 hours from where I live. I want to make sure I don't damage it so I'm not trying to knock it out anymore.</p>
<p>Any insight is appreciated, and let me know if any additional info would help, thanks!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2026 02:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Robert Drummond Jr on winchester 1873 bolt does not cock when cycled</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks guys I got it working it turns out it was the retractor, the firing pin was stuck in the bolt. Puting the retractor in with  the pin stuck didnt do anything and the bolt didnt go out enough to st the full cock. I think it got stuck because I cleaned it out and lightly oiled itand pushed it in and didnt make sure it was free. But when I reassembled everything the pin was still stuck so it didnt work. So I pulled the retractor loosened up the firing pin then reinstalled the retractor then put everything back together and now it works! Its not the first time I have taken these 73's apart both the Uberti's and originals and I have never had that happen before. But this is my first single set trigger in a 73.</p>
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<p>Anyway thanks for all the help I really appreciate it, if you have a better explanation than I explaned it I would love to hear it.</p>
<p>Thanks again</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2026 20:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>1873man on winchester 1873 bolt does not cock when cycled</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>It should float back a forth about a 1/4" as long as the action is not all the way open. At that point the retractor will be pulling it back. The firing pin should not rotate much. Its kept from rotating by the gas grove on the firing pin riding against the bottom of the extractor and the retractor. </p>
<p>Bob</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2026 20:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Robert Drummond Jr on winchester 1873 bolt does not cock when cycled</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The retractor does not rotate or move at all and it seems the firing pin is not moving either</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2026 19:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Robert Drummond Jr on winchester 1873 bolt does not cock when cycled</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Nice picture indeed. I have the retractor in correctly but I noticed the firing is sticking out and hard to move. It should be free floating right? So maybe I found the issue?</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2026 19:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on winchester 1873 bolt does not cock when cycled</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Ah, brotherly love<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2026 19:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TR on winchester 1873 bolt does not cock when cycled</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>  Nice picture Bob but you didn't have to cut up a good gun to take it. That going the extra mile. Tom</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2026 19:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>1873man on winchester 1873 bolt does not cock when cycled</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Check the retractor, long side points up and short end down with the longer part towards the back. Excessive play in the toggle pins and hinges could cause the bolt to go back far enough but it worked before you took it apart. This would be odd but other thing that might of happened is when cleaned it up you removed a build up of grime at the end of the firing pin where it bottoms out in the bolt that now the firing pin goes in farther causing the firing pin to not go back far enough. </p>
<p>Bob</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2026 17:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Robert Drummond Jr on winchester 1873 bolt does not cock when cycled</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bob,</p>
<p>I am going to disassemble the receiver again and reinstall the retractor I am sure I put it in correctly but it doesnt hurt to redo it just in case</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2026 16:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Robert Drummond Jr on winchester 1873 bolt does not cock when cycled</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bob,</p>
<p>Yes I have done that and it almost travels far enough looking at it from inside the receiver. I have a couple other 73's and comparing the  cycling the only difference is bolt position that I can see. The hammer is in good condition and the bolt fave is not overly worn</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2026 15:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Robert Drummond Jr on winchester 1873 bolt does not cock when cycled</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Yes it is</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2026 15:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>1873man on winchester 1873 bolt does not cock when cycled</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Rob,</p>
<p>You can remove the stock and the left sideplate and watch it as you cycle the lever. You just leave the right sideplate on and lay the gun on that side so the toggles don't fall out. You will be able to see why its not going in to full cock.</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2026 15:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TR on winchester 1873 bolt does not cock when cycled</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>  Is the retractor installed correctly in the breech-pin? T/R</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2026 14:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Robert Drummond Jr on winchester 1873 bolt does not cock when cycled</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify">Hi Guys,</p>
<p>I have a Winchester 1873 rifle in 38-40 that has a single set trigger. When I got this rifle is was pretty dirty and I cleaned it I cycling the action was good and it ejected a dumped my round from the magazine into the carrier, bolt seated the case and ejected nicely. The set trigger did not work could not be set but the half cock and full cock worked correctly. I cycled and fired a few rounds and it shot fine and the cases looked good with centered primer hits.</p>
<p>I saw the set scew was scewed in so I unscrewed it a little and it still would not set. It was at that time I dissassembled the action to look at the parts. Taking the plates off the toggles were in good condition but dirty so I removed those and the lifter, carrier and cleaned them. I removed the buttstock and removed the hammer spring so I could look at the trigger assembly. I removed the finger lever screw and pin removed the finger lever. Then I tooked out the lower tang screws with the idea of removing the lower tang but it would not move. I tried socking it with Kroil oil and gently pulling and trying to rock it but no go. Gently used a brass hammer but nothing. I then decided to clean the muck out of the set trigger assembly using degreaser a small brush and compressed air. Once done the set trigger worked correctly. There was a lot of gunk in it mostly dired oil. I lightly oiled it and then resembled the rifle. Once it was reassembled I cycled the action and found that the bolt drove the hammer back but would not go back enough to engage the full cock. Pulling the lever back the hammer would follow back and stop at the half cock. The half and full cock notches are in good shape and both work great. When shooting the rifle I could put it in half cock and it held and could cycle and full cock would hold until the trigger was pulled. Now after cleaning I have a working single set trigger but cannot cycle the bolt enough to get the full cock to engage,</p>
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<p>So I am at a loss at why this is happening. It looks like the bolt needs to travel about .125" more to fully engage the full cock. Not sure why I can't remove the lower tang and not sure why after cleaning the full cock will not engage when cycled, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>Thanks </p>
<p>Rob</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2026 14:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Robert Drummond Jr on Winchester 1886 finger lever bolt &#038; bushing</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guys,</p>
<p>I am looking for Winchester 1886 finger lever bolt &#038; bushing and a hammer if possible. All the sites I look for parts are out (Homestead, Old Arms Idaho) I'd appreciate any suggestions on where I can locate these. I posted this in the Swap section as well.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2026 15:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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