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Honest Jon said
Clear as can be! Thank you Bert. Mine is NOT milled. The lobe is totally solid. Incidentally, I know you are running a data base on these rifles- mine is 1644 in 32-20.
Jon
  

Per the factory ledger record, it was manufactured with a plain trigger, and a 28-inch No. 2 octagon barrel.

Bert

]]> Fri, 14 Aug 2026 15:35:42 +0000 Anthony on 1885 High Wall Single Set Trigger? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/1885-high-wall-single-set-trigger/#p182979 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/1885-high-wall-single-set-trigger/#p182979 Jon,

You wouldn't hurt our feelings if you posted pics of you're newly acquired M-1885!

 

Tony

]]> Fri, 14 Aug 2026 13:32:12 +0000 Honest Jon on 1885 High Wall Single Set Trigger? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/1885-high-wall-single-set-trigger/#p182974 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/1885-high-wall-single-set-trigger/#p182974 Clear as can be! Thank you Bert. Mine is NOT milled. The lobe is totally solid. Incidentally, I know you are running a data base on these rifles- mine is 1644 in 32-20.

Jon

]]> Fri, 14 Aug 2026 10:54:00 +0000 Bert H. on 1885 High Wall Single Set Trigger? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/1885-high-wall-single-set-trigger/#p182973 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/1885-high-wall-single-set-trigger/#p182973 Hello Jon,

Ordinarily, the tapped 5-56 threaded hole directly behind the trigger indicates a single set trigger.  However, some early production Single Shot rifles are found with a trigger made for a set trigger rifle, but do not have the requisite associated parts. In addition to the trigger itself, the hammer for the set trigger is different.

This is a hammer for a plain (non-set) trigger;

Plain-trigger-hammer.jpg

 

This is a hammer for a set trigger;

Single-set-33803-1a-HW.jpg

As you can see, the bottom lobe of the hammer is milled with a longitudinal groove to accommodate the set trigger fly, whereas the plain trigger hammer is not.

Bert

]]> Fri, 14 Aug 2026 05:43:53 +0000 Honest Jon on 1885 High Wall Single Set Trigger? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/1885-high-wall-single-set-trigger/#p182971 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/1885-high-wall-single-set-trigger/#p182971 I snagged an 1885 Highwall manufactured in 1886 in 32-20 today at an auction.  It has a mirror bright bore so hold real hope for it as a shooter. My question is in regard to the trigger and whether the tiny hole in the trigger base aft of the trigger itself, indicates it was originally built with a single set trigger?  Haven't got around to taking the trigger housing out to look more closely for signs of a set trigger but will soon. 

Jon

]]> Fri, 14 Aug 2026 03:26:14 +0000 TXGunNut on Kroil sighting! https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/kroil-sighting/page-2/#p182620 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/kroil-sighting/page-2/#p182620 He's not gonna pick up any customers around here with those heavy-handed methods. Maybe if he gets a few followers he will spring for an action wrench. The gun was in very bad shape on the surface but seemed to have avoided Bubba most of its life, until now. I wouldn't do that to a dug-up hardware store single shot shotgun. 

 

Mike

]]> Fri, 07 Aug 2026 19:57:54 +0000 epoletna on Kroil sighting! https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/kroil-sighting/#p182617 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/kroil-sighting/#p182617 I did some restoration work on an old Cessna 140 using glass beads on some of the parts, but I sure wouldn't use that procedure on firearms!  And I put something over the blasted parts when I was done --  paint or powder coating -- and I sure wouldn't put those on guns either.  

 

No, bead-blasted Winchesters are not to my liking at all.  

]]> Fri, 07 Aug 2026 17:24:36 +0000 epoletna on Kroil sighting! https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/kroil-sighting/#p182600 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/kroil-sighting/#p182600 I did some restoration work on an old Cessna 140 using glass beads on some of the parts, but I sure wouldn't use that procedure on firearms!  And I put something over the blasted parts when I was done --  paint or powder coating -- and I sure wouldn't put those on guns either.  

 

No, bead-blasted Winchesters are not to my liking at all.  

]]> Fri, 07 Aug 2026 14:56:27 +0000 kevindpm61 on Kroil sighting! https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/kroil-sighting/#p182589 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/kroil-sighting/#p182589 I caught the sight removal mistake as well.

]]> Fri, 07 Aug 2026 12:19:09 +0000 Jim F in CT on Kroil sighting! https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/kroil-sighting/#p182588 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/kroil-sighting/#p182588

426crown said
Here is a good story with Kroil, just saw it on you tube............
 

  

I see Mr. Kinzler REMOVED the rear sight incorrectly from right to left . . . .should have removed from left to right!

Those dovetails are tapered!

]]> Fri, 07 Aug 2026 11:59:03 +0000 Jeremy P on Kroil sighting! https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/kroil-sighting/#p182586 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/kroil-sighting/#p182586

426crown said
Here is a good story with Kroil, just saw it on you tube............
 

  

I've watched that channel before and I'm torn on what I think of it....on one hand they are taking garbage and giving it life...on the other, their end product is sometimes horrible in finishes. I'm also not convinced they (and similar creators) aren't taking original guns and artificially rusting them themselves just to make content.

But back to Kroil, yes that's its best use! 🙂 

]]> Fri, 07 Aug 2026 11:54:40 +0000 MidwestCrisis on Kroil sighting! https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/kroil-sighting/#p182582 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/kroil-sighting/#p182582

426crown said
Here is a good story with Kroil, just saw it on you tube............
 

  

There’s a reason Mark Novak calls it Angel Piss.  I’ve heard many pseudonyms over the years. My favorite is rooster wad.  If you’re going to use a cue tip dab, use whatever you want.  When it’s provided by your employer you can use it all.  It is expensive buying yourself, but like everyone has said so far, it’s the best.  YouTube videos only go so far. You have to be able to extrapolate from incomplete da.  

]]> Fri, 07 Aug 2026 04:45:19 +0000 426crown on Kroil sighting! https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/kroil-sighting/#p182579 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/kroil-sighting/#p182579 Here is a good story with Kroil, just saw it on you tube............

 

]]> Fri, 07 Aug 2026 02:18:06 +0000 Woody P on Kroil sighting! https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/kroil-sighting/#p182558 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/kroil-sighting/#p182558 I've been using Kroil oil for years. My son, who runs a maintance shop for a major airline turned me on to it.

The stuff really works. I have a "drip can" that has lasted for a few years. Still about 1/2 full.

I found a small shallow glass jar with a screw on top, squirt some in the jar and with a "Q-tip", I'm good to go.

For bigger applications, same jar with a small disposable paint brush from the local hardware store.

Just sayin' ..................

]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2026 16:12:42 +0000 MidwestCrisis on Kroil sighting! https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/kroil-sighting/#p182543 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/kroil-sighting/#p182543 I need a drip can for the gun room.  The aerosol is in my shop where I work on tractors and what have you.  When something doesn’t move with gentle pressure, I go get it and take a break while it soaks.  

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