Winchester Collector - Forum: Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/ Simple:Press Version 6.11.14 steve004 on To restore a collectible Winchester or not? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/to-restore-a-collectible-winchester-or-not/page-5/#p183323 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/to-restore-a-collectible-winchester-or-not/page-5/#p183323 For the earlier years of my collecting, if you wanted a rifle that looked like it just came out of the factory, you could spend very big money for that rare piece that had been tucked away since it was was shipped, or you could pay for a restoration.  During the intervening decades we have seen the rise of the replica.  These offer another option.  An option that has become very popular.  

In the two Model 1876 carbines that were featured above, I was drawn much more to the original finish piece than the restoration piece.  For me, my very initial impression, was that the restored piece looked like a replica.  What that means is I could buy a replica for a small fraction of the price of that high quality restoration piece and the two would look similar.  Another similarity they would share - neither are original.

]]> Sat, 22 Aug 2026 13:57:01 +0000 Anthony on To restore a collectible Winchester or not? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/to-restore-a-collectible-winchester-or-not/page-5/#p183321 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/to-restore-a-collectible-winchester-or-not/page-5/#p183321 Buck,

I also like it. I enjoyed how you put the article together, showing the comparisons of the two.

It's certainly Collector Magazine worthy, besides the post here. IMO!

Thanks for sharing, as it goes well with extending this already good thread.

 

Tony

]]> Sat, 22 Aug 2026 12:31:46 +0000 Jeremy P on To restore a collectible Winchester or not? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/to-restore-a-collectible-winchester-or-not/page-5/#p183308 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/to-restore-a-collectible-winchester-or-not/page-5/#p183308 I'd say Turnbull did a nice job there without over-doing it...love the set!

]]> Fri, 21 Aug 2026 23:44:32 +0000 Nevada Paul on To restore a collectible Winchester or not? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/to-restore-a-collectible-winchester-or-not/page-5/#p183306 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/to-restore-a-collectible-winchester-or-not/page-5/#p183306

Buck94 said
Fellas I thought you might enjoy seeing the restored 1876 beside an original 1876 born at the same time! Both received in the warehouse on the same day and both shipped out of the warehouse on the same day in the same order to the NWMP and are only 4 serial #’s apart! Pretty amazing to reunite them 150 years later. Note their 150th birthday is actually tomorrow!
The restoration was done by Turnbull and if you followed this thread you know I didn’t restore it but bought it that way! I think the 2 side by side tell a great story and probably saw action together. I would be very interested in the opinions of those of you in the know to hear what you think of the original? No one is gonna offend me if you tell me it’s all fake 😀. I enjoy when you guys point things out and try and follow the education. For example, I may never be able to spot a wrong site like brother Bert but I now look at the wood to see how tight the fit is to judge if it has been sanded down and restained at any point. Anyway, I think they are a really great pair dripping with character and history. Hope you guys get a kick out of them as well. Thanks
  

This is a great story.  Whatever negative connotation is associated with 'restoration', in my mind is more than overcome with this matched set.

NP

]]> Fri, 21 Aug 2026 23:27:20 +0000 Bert H. on To restore a collectible Winchester or not? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/to-restore-a-collectible-winchester-or-not/page-5/#p183304 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/to-restore-a-collectible-winchester-or-not/page-5/#p183304 Very cool!  

]]> Fri, 21 Aug 2026 22:51:36 +0000 Buck94 on To restore a collectible Winchester or not? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/to-restore-a-collectible-winchester-or-not/page-5/#p183302 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/to-restore-a-collectible-winchester-or-not/page-5/#p183302 Fellas I thought you might enjoy seeing the restored 1876 beside an original 1876 born at the same time! Both received in the warehouse on the same day and both shipped out of the warehouse on the same day in the same order to the NWMP and are only 4 serial #’s apart! Pretty amazing to reunite them 150 years later. Note their 150th birthday is actually tomorrow!

The restoration was done by Turnbull and if you followed this thread you know I didn’t restore it but bought it that way! I think the 2 side by side tell a great story and probably saw action together. I would be very interested in the opinions of those of you in the know to hear what you think of the original? No one is gonna offend me if you tell me it’s all fake 😀. I enjoy when you guys point things out and try and follow the education. For example, I may never be able to spot a wrong site like brother Bert but I now look at the wood to see how tight the fit is to judge if it has been sanded down and restained at any point. Anyway, I think they are a really great pair dripping with character and history. Hope you guys get a kick out of them as well. ThanksIMG_2973.jpegIMG_2982.jpegIMG_2983.jpegIMG_2981.jpegIMG_2984.jpegIMG_2989.jpegIMG_2990.jpegIMG_2991.jpegIMG_2992.jpegIMG_2993.jpegIMG_2994.jpegIMG_2996.jpegIMG_2997.jpegIMG_2998.jpegIMG_2980.jpegIMG_2977.jpegIMG_2978.jpeg

]]> Fri, 21 Aug 2026 22:32:35 +0000 Bert H. on 1885 High Wall Single Set Trigger? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/1885-high-wall-single-set-trigger/#p183029 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/1885-high-wall-single-set-trigger/#p183029

Honest Jon said
One last comment on matching up the wind gage 52a and the Lyman 5B. Today with those two installed I simply walked the hits into the X at 200 yards from 50 to 100 to 200. Easy peasy with the right equipment. Thanks again Bert!
Jon
  

You are welcomeSmile  Some might say that I have just little bit of experience with shooting the Winchester Single Shot.

Bert

]]> Sat, 15 Aug 2026 16:43:16 +0000 Honest Jon on 1885 High Wall Single Set Trigger? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/1885-high-wall-single-set-trigger/#p183028 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/1885-high-wall-single-set-trigger/#p183028 One last comment on matching up the wind gage 52a and the Lyman 5B. Today with those two installed I simply walked the hits into the X at 200 yards from 50 to 100 to 200. Easy peasy with the right equipment. Thanks again Bert!

Jon

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Henry Mero said
 Bert, ain't that Beach front sight pretty far off to the left of center on the barrel.
  

It is a bit left of center... and dirty too!

]]> Sat, 15 Aug 2026 16:04:24 +0000 Henry Mero on 1885 High Wall Single Set Trigger? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/1885-high-wall-single-set-trigger/#p183023 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/1885-high-wall-single-set-trigger/#p183023 I believe that is a Marbles "Simplex" tang sight, and without seeing the code on the back, I wouldn't know what it's for. I have one for a 1894 with a W9 code. Bert, ain't that Beach front sight pretty far off to the left of center on the barrel.

]]> Sat, 15 Aug 2026 13:50:15 +0000 Bert H. on 1885 High Wall Single Set Trigger? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/1885-high-wall-single-set-trigger/#p183011 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/1885-high-wall-single-set-trigger/#p183011

Honest Jon said
Hold the phone Bert! The sight I put on late this afternoon IS a Lyman 5B. I always thought it was a Beach but it has the two threaded screws as the pivot for the post and ivory. See below.
Jon
  

Yes indeed, that is Lyman No. 5B combination sight.

This is a real Beach sight;

Beech-Sight-front-view.jpeg

 

Bert

]]> Sat, 15 Aug 2026 06:01:31 +0000 Honest Jon on 1885 High Wall Single Set Trigger? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/1885-high-wall-single-set-trigger/#p183010 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/1885-high-wall-single-set-trigger/#p183010 Hold the phone Bert! The sight I put on late this afternoon IS a Lyman 5B. I always thought it was a Beach but it has the two threaded screws as the pivot for the post and ivory. See below.

JonIMG_2980.jpeg

]]> Sat, 15 Aug 2026 03:03:42 +0000 Honest Jon on 1885 High Wall Single Set Trigger? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/1885-high-wall-single-set-trigger/#p183008 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/1885-high-wall-single-set-trigger/#p183008 Thank you once again Bert. Late this afternoon I slid an ancient Beach folder sight to match up with the wind gage sight.  The Beach measures .494 base to center post.  It got dark here tonight so didn't have time to try it.

Would that be similar to the Lyman 5B in height?

Jon

]]> Sat, 15 Aug 2026 02:48:54 +0000 Bert H. on 1885 High Wall Single Set Trigger? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/1885-high-wall-single-set-trigger/#p183004 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/1885-high-wall-single-set-trigger/#p183004

Honest Jon said
Last post not very clear. The front sight is too low. Still shot about a foot high at 100 yards.
Jon
  

The Lyman wind gauge tang sight is a No. 52A, and it is not original to the rifle.  Ordinarily, that tang sight was paired up with a Lyman No. 5B combination front sight.

Bert

]]> Sat, 15 Aug 2026 01:32:23 +0000 Honest Jon on 1885 High Wall Single Set Trigger? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/1885-high-wall-single-set-trigger/#p183003 Restoration, Repair and Maintenance https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/1885-high-wall-single-set-trigger/#p183003 Last post not very clear. The front sight is too low. Still shot about a foot high at 100 yards.

Jon

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