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                    <title>Zebulon on A Justifiable Restoration</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The thing that is a jarring note about the Walnut is it is flatsawn sapwood and at least one cathedral of grain shows. Of course, Winchester never wasted anything but my impression is their 19th Century wood was riftsawn heartwood, when they could get it. [CHUCK, if you see this, please comment.] </p>
<p>Of course, this gun's d.o.m. [per Bert] was 1929 when the kitchen sink was likely being used for material, so maybe a sapwood stock is semi-authentic? </p>
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                    <title>Zebulon on A Justifiable Restoration</title>
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<p>MidwestCrisis said<br />
That appears to be a brand new 1929 92 to someone like me.  <br />
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<p>Yeah to me too! It looks amazing and would love to see the before pics if any exist. If you are feeling guilty for owning a restoration and need to get rid of it to cleanse your soul, I will be happy to give you back your original $399 😉 Kidding of course. Great job Zeb and thanks for sharing!<br />
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<p>Buck, I was still in harness then and enamored of Kimber of Oregon and Sturm Ruger rifles, having been soured on Winchester products since 1964. My re-awakeming came later when I rescued a nice 1950 Model 70 Supergrade 30 Govt '06 from a local consignment rack. </p>
<p>I wish I had taken "before" photos of this  92 as well.  My Dad was still alive and we had it in his workshop, installing a tall brass blade he'd made I could file down as needed to zero the gun with the Lyman tang. Whoever had installed the Lyman never changed the front sight to match. I'd give a lot to have a photo of Dad with the rifle clamped in his big Wilton machinist's vice (between softwood blocks.)</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 16:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on A Justifiable Restoration</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Scott was and is an excellent and meticulous craftsman. Decades ago,  when he was the in-house gunsmith for old Nix and making custom stocks on the side, there was a restocked and rebarreled Winchester Highwall in a glass counter, one a customer ordered and failed to pick up and pay for. It was chambered for 280 Ackley Improved and was stocked in exhibition grade French Walnut with lots of 24 LPI checkering in a point pattern. The steel was rust blued or salts blued to match (a feat largely achieved in the polishing), and the barrel was 28" half-octagon.  There was a quarter rib for a scope. </p>
<p>Scott was asking $4700 and that included a set of custom dies. Now, that money was the 2026 equivalent of at least six or seven grand and was well over my pay grade then (and now.) </p>
<p>But it showed me what he could do when he was let. I would put his work up against Dale Goens, Earl Milliron, or Al Biesen for grace and execution.  </p>
<p>I've always felt I got a small piece of Scott's work at a bargain price. </p>
<p>Did I mention how long it took to get this 92 back from him? Seventeen months. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 16:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>James W on To restore a collectible Winchester or not?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Well, my post got emailed to you, I believe, Bert. But anyway I do agree with you. I do like to buy a gun that is original and I will never buy a gun just to put new wood on it and reblue it just to make it look prettier. A few dings and blemishes don't bother me that much. But, I would buy a gun that is rusted and damaged and be able to put it back in service again. Or, I have bought guns that have been changed from original and put them back original again. But you are right, there is a big difference between "repairing" and "replacing" on a gun. Thank you for your input.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 13:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on A Justifiable Restoration</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>He did a pretty damn nice job I think...I like the restoration choice in this instance.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 13:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on 1886 Winchester Sticks at chambering</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I could be off base here, as I do agree with the members suggesting on everything that you're checking on, and I would certainly be looking at the cartridges first, and the action.</p>
<p>I noticed that you said the barrel was replaced, but I hadn't noticed anything as far as the receiver.</p>
<p>As I had a friend who had a similar situation with a M-1886, and after a bargain priced restoration, from a guy that did it on the side, the Receiver wasn't blocked up properly, for the extreme heat from the new case color restoration, and had moved and tightened up a little, causing the actions smoothness to disappear.</p>
<p>The M-1886, is considered by many, to be one of the best rifle designs by J.M.B.  It's smooth cycling is second to none. IMO! </p>
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<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 11:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on 1886 Winchester Sticks at chambering</title>
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Just measured the bullet.  Within size.  I ran a new empty cartridge into the chamber.  It came out rolled at a 2.398 not 2.40.  This is a new barrel too.  Maybe needs cut anther 0.002?<br />
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<p>It does appear to be a slightly short chamber.  It is possible that the breech end of the barrel was trimmed a bit when it was being fitted to the receiver and bolt.  If you do ream the chamber length to fix the problem, I recommend .004 - .005" versus just .002".</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 07:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Buck1967 on A Justifiable Restoration</title>
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<p><strong>MidwestCrisis said </strong><br />
That appears to be a brand new 1929 92 to someone like me.  <br />
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<p>Yeah to me too! It looks amazing and would love to see the before pics if any exist. If you are feeling guilty for owning a restoration and need to get rid of it to cleanse your soul, I will be happy to give you back your original $399 😉 Kidding of course. Great job Zeb and thanks for sharing!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 06:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MidwestCrisis on A Justifiable Restoration</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>That appears to be a brand new 1929 92 to someone like me.  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 02:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on A Justifiable Restoration</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>This is a rifle I've talked about several times in the last couple of years but never properly photographed. I had it out this evening and decided to show what I think is a restoration on which most could agree.</p>
<p>This was not an attempt to make the rifle historically correct -- as you can see, the buttplate, lever, and nose cap are not case colored, the tang sight is Lyman's then (circa 1999)  current reproduction, and the front sight is a modern Marble's.  </p>
<p>The reason I bothered to have this work done was (1) the gun had been badly abused by more than one owner, although the bore was pristine and the gun perfectly functional; (2) I bought it for $399 USD; (3) first trial at the range it shot 50 yard cloverleaves with 86 grain Remington factory ammunition. </p>
<p>As bought, the steel had been over-buffed and rounded, although bozo did leave the rollmarks and serial alone. Screw heads were flattened. Garish blue job.  Left receiver wall had been drilled and tapped for a side scope mount. The wood had been hopelessly sanded down. </p>
<p>I turned it over to Scott May, the talented gunsmith and custom stockmaker who has since gone on to manage Beretta's custom shop in Dallas. Scott ordered new Walnut and screws, stoned the steel back to contours, welded up the extra holes - had a hell of a time find welding rod that wouldn't be a sore thumb -- rust blued the barrel and the receiver, fitted and finished the furniture in oil.  </p>
<p>This was more than 25 years ago. The tab was $700. So $1,100 all in, in 2000 Dollars. Could I have bought an original small bore 1992 with a pristine barrel for that money back then? I don't know. I don't think so because Cowboy Action competition was hot. But I had no intention to spend $700 more until I saw how accurate the little rifle was. </p>
<p>In any event, the gun was so far from any sort of original condition, it needed to be either parted out or given back some portion of its dignity. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 02:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on 1886 Winchester Sticks at chambering</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I would check the bullet diameter and the loaded case dimensions. Odd that it seems to seat with finger pressure but not with the bolt. I suppose something in the bolt raceway or locking bolts could be binding up only when under a load. Time for a closer look.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 20:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>1873man on 1886 Winchester Sticks at chambering</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>It sure sounds like the cartridge is not sized right for the chamber. If you can't push it in by hand it can only be the cartridge</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 19:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>426crown on 1886 Winchester Sticks at chambering</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Are you sure it was full length sized?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 19:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Otisman68 on 1886 Winchester Sticks at chambering</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I have a 1886.  When the rifle is unloaded the action cycles fine.  When I put a cartridge in, this case it's a 45-90, the rifle is very hard to put into battery (last 1/8 of lever movement).  Then it is extremely hard to start the ejection process.  After it doesn't stick, it throws the empty like normal.  This issue happens when I take the extractor off the bolt too.  Any ideas what could be causing this?</p>
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<p>The dummy cartridge is brand new starline brass with 300 gr bullet seated properly.  But i will check.   When pushed in by hand it looks flush with barrel</p>
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<p>Just measured the bullet.  Within size.  I ran a new empty cartridge into the chamber.  It came out rolled at a 2.398 not 2.40.  This is a new barrel too.  Maybe needs cut anther 0.002?</p>
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