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                    <title>TXGunNut on Somthing not often talked about here</title>
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<p><strong>oldcrankyyankee said </strong></p>
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<p>TXGunNut said<br />
Looks like you have the makings of a calendar photo. Winchester's war efforts are a major part of the history of the company.<br />
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<p>Calendar photo???!!! Hell i can't even get the stupid pictures to transfer over upright Mike! And you want me to try to make a picture for the calendar? I will get laughed out of town.<br />
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<p>Yes I do! Brad doesn't care what the orientation may be, I guarantee he can fix that. I think he's looking for focus, lighting and composition and can help you with that.</p>
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                    <title>oldcrankyyankee on Somthing not often talked about here</title>
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<p><strong>TXGunNut said </strong><br />
Looks like you have the makings of a calendar photo. Winchester's war efforts are a major part of the history of the company.<br />
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Mike<br />
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<p>Calendar photo???!!! Hell i can't even get the stupid pictures to transfer over upright Mike! And you want me to try to make a picture for the calendar? I will get laughed out of town.<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 00:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>oldcrankyyankee on Somthing not often talked about here</title>
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I have never even picked up a M 14. We got M 16's.  Three of my friends and I went to lunch Saturday and they all liked their M 14"s.<br />
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<p>We carried (6) of M14 rifles on all of the submarines I served on.  I first qualified with an M14 in early 1980, and then continued to requalify with them up until 1998.  Shortly after I retired from active duty (February 2000), the Navy Submarine force switched to the M16A3, and also added a pair of M60s to the small arms lockers.<br />
I personally like the M14 rifles, as they shot well for me (I always shot a perfect score with them, all 30-rounds in the X-ring).<br />
Bert<br />
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<p>Bert, I have to know. At what distance were you shooting and what position? I had to shoot the M16a2 Hbar at 200, 300, and 500 yards. When I made the battalion rifle team and shot the National Match course it was 200,300 and 600 yard!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 00:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jman on I need Help!  Looking for a reference book regarding Model 1866 and 1873 Winchesters</title>
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<p><strong>426crown said </strong><br />
Jamie--Look for Volume 1 of the Art Pirkle book on the 66 and 73. Do a google search for Winchester rifle books, and don't buy the 1st one you find, some sellers are greedy--Bill<br />
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<p>Thank you Bill for your recommendation!  It’s well appreciated!!! 👍 </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 00:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>oldcrankyyankee on Somthing not often talked about here</title>
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<strong>Chuck said </strong><br />
Nice set up.  What vintage is the rifle?</p>
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<p>Not sure the year of receiver. I can tell you it is all Winchester except the barrel which is 51 Springfield. PS thanks for flipping the picture Chuck! It has an original oiler, cleaning rod with case and combo tool. The bayonet is a M-1943 model and the case is a "case, paratrooper, m1950. Couldn't look the gift horse in the mouth.  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 00:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jman on I need Help!  Looking for a reference book regarding Model 1866 and 1873 Winchesters</title>
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Greetings to everyone!!!<br />
Today I became a member of the Winchester Arms Collectors Association.  I’m pretty excited to learn more about the history of Winchester and converse with some knowledgeable people in the field.<br />
Im looking for a good reference book regarding the Winchester Model 1866 and 1873.  I hoping to locate a book with plenty of photos, that emphasizes on the production, variations, roll marks, and stamping.  Should anyone out there know of a couple of good books??  Let me know.  Thanks!!!!<br />
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<p>Welcome Jman,</p>
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Jman,<br />
Welcome to the forum. I mostly into the 1873 and am doing a survey on them. I would suggest the Winchester Book by Madis. It covers most the models but does have some inaccuracies and pictures are not great. That is the book I started out with. For the 73 alone, Winchester's New Model of 1873: A Tribute by Jim Gordon. Expensive but loaded with good info and great pictures. What the different stamps looked like through out production. The other one which does have some good parts is The 1873 Handbook by George Stone. <br />
Bob<br />
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<p>As Bob stated, and I'm in complete agreement, you can't go wrong with his suggestions! IMHO! I will add that the older book by Harold F. Williamson, "Winchester The Gun that Won the West", is an older reference also, but not only will help tremendously on the Winchester History, but very affordable as far as a Reference book goes, and understanding why Winchester made some of the interesting moves they made, due to the economic times, way back when!<br />
Tony<br />
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<p>Hey Tony!!</p>
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<p>Thank you for your good advice!!  I just ordered my copy!!  I appreciate your advice!!  👍 </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 00:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><strong>Jeremy P said </strong><br />
Welcome to WACA!<br />
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<p>Thank you very much Jeremy for the warm welcome!  It is well appreciated!!  👍 </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 00:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on Somthing not often talked about here</title>
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<p><strong>Steven Gabrielli said </strong><br />
Ian is on point.<br />
<a href="https://www.forgottenweapons.com/m14-americas-worst-service-rifle-what-went-wrong/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.forgottenweapons.com/m14-americas-worst-service-rifle-what-went-wrong/</a><br />
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<p>Steve,</p>
<p>As you're well aware of, he usually is!</p>
<p>Good find!</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 19:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Steven Gabrielli on Somthing not often talked about here</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Ian is on point.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.forgottenweapons.com/m14-americas-worst-service-rifle-what-went-wrong/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.forgottenweapons.com/m14-americas-worst-service-rifle-what-went-wrong/</a></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 19:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Somthing not often talked about here</title>
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<strong>Chuck said </strong><br />
I have never even picked up a M 14. We got M 16's.  Three of my friends and I went to lunch Saturday and they all liked their M 14"s.<br />
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<p>We carried (6) of M14 rifles on all of the submarines I served on.  I first qualified with an M14 in early 1980, and then continued to requalify with them up until 1998.  Shortly after I retired from active duty (February 2000), the Navy Submarine force switched to the M16A3, and also added a pair of M60s to the small arms lockers.</p>
<p>I personally like the M14 rifles, as they shot well for me (I always shot a perfect score with them, all 30-rounds in the X-ring).</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 19:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on Somthing not often talked about here</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>CMP is releasing some M14s late this year or early next (supposedly)...not sure how they'll price them or how they'll modify them.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 18:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on Somthing not often talked about here</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I have never even picked up a M 14. We got M 16's.  Three of my friends and I went to lunch Saturday and they all liked their M 14"s.</p>
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                    <title>Steven Gabrielli on Somthing not often talked about here</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Well the M14 was an unmitigated disaster both manufacturing and maintenance wise. There is an unjustified romance with the M14, but its release and use early in Viet Nam was not what it appears. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 17:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing, and it surly is a reminder of what was said as far as how important Winchester played in the War effort.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 17:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Nice set up.  What vintage is the rifle?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 17:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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