TXGunNut said
Looking at that stamp I wonder if it passed through the Browning Brothers' shop more than once. Very nice rifle, shoots great for nearly 150 years old!
 
Mike
  

I wouldn't necessarily say "It passed through", but rather having been actually "made at" the Browning Shop in Utah makes it even more special than any Winchester with a Browning Bros. stamp. It was hand made by one or more of the Browning Brothers.

Shrapnel said
It is what brought Thomas Bennet out to Ogden, Utah to the Browning Brothers shop to secure the rights to produce the rifle, which would become the Winchester Model 1885.
 

Technically what brought out V.P. T.G. Bennet to Utah was to settle a dispute over a Reloading Tool patent infringement over (W..R.A.Co.) Superintendent V.A. King's 1880 Reloading Tool and Browning's Reloading Tool. They settled on an agreement to allow Browning Brothers to finish producing 125 Sets of Tools that Browning had on hand. While settling this agreement over the reloading tool another deal was struck between Winchester & Browning over the Single Shot and other designs. That lead to a long term relationship with Browning and Winchester until the final falling out between them.

Sincerely,

Maverick

Mike

We are about 6 weeks away from the Midwest WACA show! Now I know it’s not the Cody show,but it’s still a chance for you to meet up with old friends, meet new ones, and possibly find something you have been looking for. Trade and display tables are still available. Located in Wellington Ohio, which located about an hour southwest of Cleveland.

It’s being held at:

https://www.loraincountygrounds.com

Its a beautiful facility, well lit, and plenty of parking- heck it’s only a year old!
 
Hotel nearby would be The Hotel at Oberlin, 440-775-7001. OGCA rate good through8/19/26

Holiday inn express Medina, 330-722-6006 OGCA group ID also.

any questions please call the OGCA business office at 330-467-5733, you also welcome to post or PM me.

thanks for your time!

antler1 said
What years were Browning brothers stamping any model of Winchester that were sold thru their shop?
  

I don't think there's much in print answering you're question, but we do know in reading several accounts on the dealings of JMB, and Winchester, that upon purchasing the patent for the first of JMB's, 127 patents, he would take Winchesters on trade for partial payment, as early as the very first patent date of Oct. 7, 1879, and through out the late 1800's and into the early 1900's we see some of the "Browning Brothers stamp's" that we're offered in a few different variants, on different Winchester models, that a few members here have shared.

Tony

That's a very nice find. Not all of the Single Shots had the Browning Brothers identification on them, even though they made and used more than one stamp, with different variations on them. These rifles we're made by hand as was the tooling to do so. 

The, what looks like an,"O", stamp on the left sided flat, under the patent date, is interesting to me. As is also, what looks like, "530",(serial #530) on the top flat in front of the receiver. We aren't accustomed to seeing the serial number here! The amount of bluing on the barrel, is also pretty amazing to see. 

As we know there's not a lot of information out there on these, as one of the only 600 manufactured original S. S. rifles. The Borchardt style lever, and as you mentioned, the "double set", triggers, and the cleaning rod underneath, are sure scarce.

This example has a larger metal style crescent butt, for the times when shooters we're smaller in stature.

The "Thick Side " round top receiver, is always a very attractive looking feature to me on these. 

It was a very well known fact back in the day, that a heavy barrel rifle shot better! Hence the heavy barrel. It was not uncommon for these to weigh 16 pounds or more.

It's well known and documented in Campbell's books that the wrist area was changed by Winchester with the degree of the wood to metal fit, bu changing the angle on the metal receiver, and also strengthening the, "S", shaped style point of contact. Amongst other changes that Winchester made to the M-1885 S.S.

It's not well known what rear sights we're used on these, as the "Fruend", sight was also used on some of these and are characteristically longer than what most of us are accustomed to, as far as the Winchester rear rifle sights the we see. 

With less than 100 known to exist, approximately 60 are documented today to be in existence, or at least found.

Thanks for sharing,

Tony

Bert H. said
What group ??
  

While I was in Cody last July, I found this remarkable Model 1878 and bought it! It is what brought Thomas Bennet out to Ogden, Utah to the Browning Brothers shop to secure the rights to produce the rifle, which would become the Winchester Model 1885.

It is rare enough to find a real Browning Brothers gun, but to also have a heavy barrel, cleaning rod and double set triggers, this one really stands alone!

It is marked 40-70 which shoulf probably be 40-70 Sharps Staight, but through trial and error, I found that it is chambered 40-90 Sharps Bottleneck.

I took it to the range and with some .408 265 grain greese grooved gas checked bullets, I was able to get this group with open sights at 50 yards.

It will be killing something thiss fall...

Bob

1873man said
I paid for the rush delivery to Gun List and it was published in Wisconsin so I figure I would get it first but I would call on a gun the day I got it, the seller said "I sold it yesterday"
Bob
  

HAHAHA!

Bob,

I'm not laughing at you, but at myself, because years ago,  I thought, "If I would pay the extra for it, maybe I could get a shot at some of these I kept missing on"! LOL! You weren't alone in you're thinking, and I am a couple states south of you.

Tony