Anthony said

Thanks, those are better.  Are there any pictures of the top flat of the barrel forward of the rear sight?

I have to wonder what the rectangular silver colored piece was for?

Bert

Bert H. said

Anthony said
BERT SAID,
Are there any additional pictures of #196? The link you provided has just the single picture.
Bert,
Here are more pics of #196.
 
  

Please send me the full size pictures.
I question the serial number placement, but anything could have happened back in those days.
Bert
  

Bert,

The serial number is on the top flat in front of the small rectangular piece of Silver inlay, and on the right side flat on the side of the barrel.

Tony

Anthony said
BERT SAID,
Are there any additional pictures of #196? The link you provided has just the single picture.
Bert,
Here are more pics of #196.
 

Please send me the full size pictures.

I question the serial number placement, but anything could have happened back in those days.

Bert

Are there any additional pictures of #196? The link you provided has just the single picture.

Bert,

Here are more pics of #196.

TXGunNut said

Bert H. said

TXGunNut said
Looking at that stamp I wonder if it passed through the Browning Brothers' shop more than once. 
 
Mike
  

Doubtful.  The stamped markings on it are correct for a late 1882 or early 1883 Browning Single Shot rifle.  The markings on it are identical to those on serial number 536.
Bert
  

Thanks, I was thinking they might have used "U.T." for Utah Territory instead of "Utah" for the early guns. Haven't been able to discover when they used the stamps we see. I was thinking a resale of the gun as a trade-in might explain what I thought was a later stamp. 
 
Mike
  

There are at least four different Browning markings that I have verified on Browning Single Shot and Winchester Single Shot rifles.

This is Browning Single Shot #536.  As you can see, it is nearly identical to the rifle Kirk acquired at Cody last month.

Bert

Bert H. said

TXGunNut said
Looking at that stamp I wonder if it passed through the Browning Brothers' shop more than once. 
 
Mike
  

Doubtful.  The stamped markings on it are correct for a late 1882 or early 1883 Browning Single Shot rifle.  The markings on it are identical to those on serial number 536.
Bert
  

Thanks, I was thinking they might have used "U.T." for Utah Territory instead of "Utah" for the early guns. Haven't been able to discover when they used the stamps we see. I was thinking a resale of the gun as a trade-in might explain what I thought was a later stamp. 

Mike

Bert H. said

To the best of my knowledge, none have been verified with a serial number greater than 536.  I suspect that the total number that were made was something very close to 550.
That display in 1997 was the same collector that set up his display at the Cody show just a few years later.  I spent more than 4-hours at the WACA show display talking to the fellow.  Unfortunately, I believe that he has since passed away.
Bert
  

I will try to find the small note about the quantity made. 

antler1 said

Bert H. said

antler1 said
What years were Browning brothers stamping any model of Winchester that were sold thru their shop?
  

Late 1885 through at least 1906.
Bert
  

This is one of the reasons I asked. It seems late in production to have a legit Browning Bros stamp.
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/4098/26/browning-bros-marked-winchester-model-1894-rifle
  

Pat,

The marking on that rifle is legit, but based on the position of the Browning marking, it was not one of the Patent payment guns shipped directly to Browning.  Instead, it is a rifle that was brought to Ogden to be serviced by Browning after it was originally shipped out west.  The serial number "348938" identifies it as an April 1907 production rifle.

Bert