Winchester Collector - Forum: General Discussions & Questions

Onefish on Ulrich engraved 1890

Wed, 03 Jun 2026 15:42:21 +0000

Looks like this rifle ended up selling for over $26K. That’s a pretty good price for an Ulrich engraved rifle especially with it being outright stamped. I believe the partial stamp underneath is purposeful. By tilting the punch to the left and then the right leave only a JU and an H is the Ulrichs way of telling you that both John and Herman worked on the rifle. A couple other points discussed in this thread were about sometimes leaving initials or marks denoting the artist. I would rather think it was every time in some form or another. In the case of the Ulrichs they left a lot more than a cryptic JU or an HU behind. With close study you may find that the supposed pitting under the plating is actually needling and acid writing done before it was plated. In some cases the failing plating or blueing overtop allows the underlying esoterica to sort of evolve and be more easily seen to a point. The different texturing of a surface makes light reflect differently causing shading that gives life to the engraving let alone the added amusement of the little caricatures and etc. The Ulrichs work is best viewed in an “off angle” manner to reveal their initials. They are worked into the scrollwork in a manner that is very complex and not likely to allow counterfeits.

steve004 on Broken wrist... (caution, not for the squeamish!)

Wed, 03 Jun 2026 15:39:39 +0000

Ben said
I know it's not a Winchester... but Winchester people know good stock repair options. My friend had his Remington 40XB rifle knocked of the table at the gunshow this past weekend... the result was tragic. Anyway, he didn't want to try to have it repaired and sold it to me... thought I'd ask here to see if there was a wood-wizard that was taking new patients?

I think it's good news it's not a Winchester!

Chuck on Broken wrist... (caution, not for the squeamish!)

Wed, 03 Jun 2026 14:43:38 +0000

Ben, put the 2 parts together and take some more pictures. This will show any missing pieces and how bad the fit is. Anything can be stabilized but hiding the crack is not easy and wood filler is even harder to mask.

TXGunNut on Broken wrist... (caution, not for the squeamish!)

Wed, 03 Jun 2026 14:23:48 +0000

Ben-

Certainly looks repairable but I think your quest for a wood-wizard is justified. Good looking rifle.

Mike

Ben on Broken wrist... (caution, not for the squeamish!)

Wed, 03 Jun 2026 13:21:34 +0000

I know it's not a Winchester... but Winchester people know good stock repair options. My friend had his Remington 40XB rifle knocked of the table at the gunshow this past weekend... the result was tragic. Anyway, he didn't want to try to have it repaired and sold it to me... thought I'd ask here to see if there was a wood-wizard that was taking new patients?

Chuck on Greeley Show

Tue, 02 Jun 2026 22:21:36 +0000

Very cool picture. No cats or dogs here anymore but we do have a parrot. She gets into everything and is very destructive.

Bill Hockett on Greeley Show

Tue, 02 Jun 2026 22:19:03 +0000

Chuck, I got one from you so I replied??? Gremlins in the server?

Chuck on Greeley Show

Mon, 01 Jun 2026 19:27:15 +0000

Bill Hockett, I got a notice that you PM'd me but I didn't see one?

TXGunNut on Old Movies, Old Guns!

Fri, 29 May 2026 01:43:04 +0000

A few years back I wrote an article about a Model 1841 Mississippi Rifle that was likely used by a member of the 4th Texas Cavalry in a Civil War battle at Glorieta, NM and the related campaign. While researching the article some of the names seemed familiar. I thought the Glorieta battle was mentioned in the movie Outlaw Josey Wales but recently discovered that it was part of the backdrop for the Good, Bad and Ugly. Eastwood movies often have interesting firearms, even if not necessarily correct.

Mike

Jim F in CT on Old Movies, Old Guns!

Thu, 28 May 2026 21:32:11 +0000

Henry Mero said
There were a lot of 1870's-80's post civil war "battles" fought on the siver screen and t.v., with Winchester 1894' s and 1892's and others, that weren't yet manufactured. How ever it made for great entertainment when I was a kid and didn't know the difference and wouldn't have cared any ways, it was always so great to see the "white hat" guys over come insurmountable odds and beat up on the "black hat" guys in the end. I usually wear a black stetson hat and I'll be damned if it'll stay on My head when I'm on the Harley, unlike those fellas that seldom lost their hat while on horseback during a wild chase.

After reading this old thread, I was reminded . . .

Remember the old, 1930’s “oaters” stars like Ken Maynard?

When in a barroom fight, his white hat was never knocked off his head!!

TXGunNut on Old Movies, Old Guns!

Thu, 28 May 2026 01:59:28 +0000

Good, Bad and Ugly could also describe the prop guns in one of my favorite Westerns. The early close-up on the front ramp sight of an 1894 stuck out worse than usual as I'm (finally!) reading Renneberg's Trilogy but the revolvers couldn't decide if they were percussion or cartridge weapons, even a percussion revolver in a cartridge belt. All in a movie set in 1862. They managed to slip in one Henry that looked right and the extras playing soldiers were apparently re-enactors who brought their own weapons. The last weapon used in the movie was some sort of octagon-barreled carbine that I wasn't able to identify. I know it wasn't a Winchester but I'm betting one of our sharp-eyed members knows what it was.

Mike

Joelski on out of bounds?

Sat, 23 May 2026 10:47:13 +0000

Chuck said
1911 and 1911 A 1 grips are similar to these 1911 grips in shape.

Correct, but niche/competition sectors like Bullseye and custom smiths spawned some oddball grip designs, especially in the late 70’s/early 80’s. The nub that sticks up on the left stock is actually an original feature, intended to protect the plunger tube, but yeah; thumb shelves, palm swells and pinky rests all found their way onto “the least expensive” part of the 1911.

TXGunNut on Winchester and the .280 Ross

Fri, 22 May 2026 20:35:29 +0000

Zebulon said
With all due respect to Henry, these were mostly Canadians ....

Harry spent enough time in Texas to be a naturalized Texan, IIRC.

Mike

Zebulon on Winchester and the .280 Ross

Fri, 22 May 2026 16:40:22 +0000

With all due respect to Henry, these were mostly Canadians ....

steve004 on Winchester and the .280 Ross

Thu, 21 May 2026 23:14:16 +0000

Zebulon said
Steve, I think Ross -- the consummate sportsman -- designed a rifle with well trained and highly motivated Highland regiments like the Black Watch in mind. We can't know what he really thought about the Common Man, if he ever thought about him at all. But I suspect he had little sympathy for the trooper who got harelipped because "Ya dinna listen, Laddie."

Bill - your comments prompts me to reflect just what sort of training the CEF troops received in the operation of their MkIII rifles. Surely they expected the troops would be removing the bolts from their rifles as part of the cleaning process. Did they educate them what to do when the, "mouse trap" springs?