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                    <title>Zebulon on New Winchester 1873 vrs Uberti 1873</title>
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<p><strong>Jeremy P said </strong></p>
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<p>slk said<br />
I would like to add an additional question here.  If ya had a choice what would you choose chambered in 45 colt or the 44/40 for the 1873??Any reasons for either. <br />
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<p>If you're truly looking for authenticity to the "old ways" then go 44-40....if you're looking to be able to locate ammo more readily and even reload more easily, go 45 colt. I have a couple rifles in both.<br />
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<p>Agree. Factory ammunition of any centerfire pistol caliber is discouragingly expensive but finding 44-40 Winchester at any price makes it  poor choice for non-handloaders. </p>
<p>For handloaders, there's little to no difference in the cost of components because brass cases are priced principally by the amount of the metal in a case. The 44 Winchester requires more expertise to match the groove diameter of the rifle to the sized diameter of the bullet but this is fairly easy to learn and do.  The actual reloading processes of case sizing and bullet seating of the 44 Winchester case require a little more finesse and patience because the brass case is thinner and will not tolerate rough or clumsy handling. It is not well suited to a progressive loading machine. Because it has some body taper and a slight neck, it cannot be sized without lubrication in a carbide sizing die. </p>
<p>In some ways, the possible ballistics of the 44 Winchester <em>in full length rifles </em>-- flatter shooting and better energy retention at the outer edge of its practical live target distance - make it a superior deer rifle. Arguably. At 50 to 75 yards, there's little difference in trajectory and both are effective on medium game at those distances. As Urban Assault Rifles,  both are show ponies. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2026 23:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Ben on Tulsa Show Nov. 13-15</title>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2026 23:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on Tulsa Show Nov. 13-15</title>
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<p>Jeremy P said<br />
...pack your patience!<br />
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<p>I'll be travelling light. When I run out I'll go home. <br />
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Mike<br />
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<p>Saturday morning is the most packed....kind of wanes after that. It's not TOO bad, but it's busy!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2026 22:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Tulsa Show Nov. 13-15</title>
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<p><strong>Jeremy P said </strong><br />
...pack your patience!<br />
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<p>I'll be travelling light. When I run out I'll go home. </p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2026 22:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on New Winchester 1873 vrs Uberti 1873</title>
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<p><strong>slk said </strong><br />
I would like to add an additional question here.  If ya had a choice what would you choose chambered in 45 colt or the 44/40 for the 1873??Any reasons for either. <br />
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<p>If you're truly looking for authenticity to the "old ways" then go 44-40....if you're looking to be able to locate ammo more readily and even reload more easily, go 45 colt. I have a couple rifles in both.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2026 22:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on Tulsa Show Nov. 13-15</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>...pack your patience!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2026 22:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>slk on New Winchester 1873 vrs Uberti 1873</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I would like to add an additional question here.  If ya had a choice what would you choose chambered in 45 colt or the 44/40 for the 1873??Any reasons for either. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2026 20:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Tulsa Show Nov. 13-15</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>This may be the year I make it to Tulsa. Not really my kind of show but I feel the need to experience what so many collectors enjoy. I won't have a table, my only reason for going is to see the sights so many of you have told me about.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2026 18:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on New Winchester 1873 vrs Uberti 1873</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Very handsome, Bryan and it makes me happy to see you using it for what it was intended. </p>
<p>I'm waiting on a Miroku-built Winchester 1885 made up as part of Browning's Traditional Hunter series. A limited edition, it is NIB although built in 2004, chambered in 38-55. It comes furnished with a tang micrometer sight (looks like the windage adjustable Marble's) but  I've started to study the modern reproductions of the Malcolm scopes.  Do you have any suggestions or recommendations? <img data-upload="1" data-width="225" data-height="300" title="pix751075563.jpeg" alt="pix751075563.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/zebulon/2026/10/pix751075563.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="1000" data-height="1333" title="pix242588614.jpeg" alt="pix242588614.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/zebulon/2026/10/pix242588614.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="1000" data-height="1333" title="pix746409526.jpeg" alt="pix746409526.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/zebulon/2026/10/pix746409526.jpeg" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2026 17:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bryan Austin on New Winchester 1873 vrs Uberti 1873</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Considering the Winchester is actually an import from Japan, and the Uberti is an import from Italy.....parts are readily available for the Uberti. If I had plenty of money, I'd get both...but I ended up with an Uberti and will never look back.</p>
<p>My Uberti 73, Imported by Cabela's in 1997...is no safe queen. Been road hard and put up wet. Actions like she was new...and shoot just as well.</p>
<p>Two 100 yard targets, 30 shot group</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2026 12:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>evanderbeck62@gmail.com on Tulsa Show Nov. 13-15</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I am planning on coming down to it i will see if i can find your table</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2026 02:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Ben on Tulsa Show Nov. 13-15</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The fall gathering in Tulsa is coming up.  I know several here will be attending... if you've got a table (s), post your location if known.  It's always good to meet people in person, except maybe for Bert 🙂  I will be scooting around on Friday &#038; Saturday, trying to find a few deals before Steve Emmert.  JWA was given a cruise... leaving Elliot to fend for himself.  I have a few trinkets on a table next to Dennis Taggert on the lower floor, far East row, middle section.  Everyone travel safe... weather forecast looks calm.  The last few years the rain downpours have been amazing... Cheers.     </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2026 02:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>slk on New Winchester 1873 vrs Uberti 1873</title>
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<p><strong>Zebulon said </strong><br />
Steve,  If you are buying it to keep and shoot, buy the individual gun, not the brand. I have no experience re-selling Uberti. I do have some experience buying three Miroku Winchesters,  each of which was not currently manufactured when I sold it, two of which I'd bought new in 2004 and 2006, and another I'd bought in like-new condition but without a box off s consignment rack, last year. I lost about fifty bucks, all up, on the used one. I lost little or nothing ( ignoring opportunity cost) on the other two, even after the GB commission.<br />
The buying power of the American Dollar has fallen a lot since 2004 and that probably affects used Uberti rifles as well. I buy guns to collect and shoot, not as investments, and tend to buy impulsively. When I sell a gun, it's because the magic it had when I bought it somehow leaked out or I want something else enough to let it go.<br />
I think the Cimarron branded Uberti-made rifles are a cut above other Ubert-made rifles. The owner spends time in Italy educating the workmen in Val Trompa on what a Winchester should look like. And it shows. If I were buying a Uberti, I'd buy the Cimarron import. <br />
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<p>I tend to be the same way. Very impulsive when it is something I do not have and interest me. My thoughts are as long as I do not loose any money I am good. </p>
<p>I have bought several Cimarron 45 colt pistols and they are great shooters. I have heard the same about Cimarron and the owner demanding the best of the best that Uberti makes. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2026 20:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on New Winchester 1873 vrs Uberti 1873</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Steve,  If you are buying it to keep and shoot, buy the individual gun, not the brand. I have no experience re-selling Uberti. I do have some experience buying three Miroku Winchesters,  each of which was not currently manufactured when I sold it, two of which I'd bought new in 2004 and 2006, and another I'd bought in like-new condition but without a box off s consignment rack, last year. I lost about fifty bucks, all up, on the used one. I lost little or nothing ( ignoring opportunity cost) on the other two, even after the GB commission.</p>
<p>The buying power of the American Dollar has fallen a lot since 2004 and that probably affects used Uberti rifles as well. I buy guns to collect and shoot, not as investments, and tend to buy impulsively. When I sell a gun, it's because the magic it had when I bought it somehow leaked out or I want something else enough to let it go.</p>
<p>I think the Cimarron branded Uberti-made rifles are a cut above other Ubert-made rifles. The owner spends time in Italy educating the workmen in Val Trompa on what a Winchester should look like. And it shows. If I were buying a Uberti, I'd buy the Cimarron import. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2026 20:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>slk on New Winchester 1873 vrs Uberti 1873</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine bought the Cimarron/Uberti 1873 Deluxe Sporting rifle with 24” barrel. Checkered stock. Pistol grip. It sure is a beautiful rifle. The fit and finish is extreamly pleasing. It is also roughly $700 cheaper. Now that being said I have no idea what it will be worth in the future. As long as it does not loose value and you have fun shooting it I suppose you would be just fine. </p>
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