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                    <title>mrcvs on Gun Safe Humidity</title>
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<p><strong>Zebulon said </strong><br />
The insurance industry says the most useful thing about a monitored security system is early fire detection and reporting. If heat and smoke particle sensors are wisely placed, the odds of stopping a fire before it can go over a 1 alarm event are greatly improved. This is more true if you live near a well equipped, full-time fire station. Suburban living has its disadvantages but a lack of quick firefighting response is usually not one of them. <br />
Fires started by lightning strikes are impossible to predict and rare, although there was one in our subdivision. Otherwise, the likely trouble spots are near gas powered HVAC fire boxes and clothes dryers.<br />
Unattended Lithium ion batteries being charged have exploded like Napalm canisters and burned houses to the ground. I think a lot of that starts with cheap no-name batteries and hot-shot chargers without overheat detection circuitry.<br />
The Pacific Rim will build to whatever standard a manufacturer will pay for. I have never had a problem with Nikon, Canon, DeWalt, Bosch, and other quality brands.<br />
I thought iGo lawn equipment batteries were overpriced but one lowball aftermarket substitute battery taught me the difference. It swelled up and got too hot to touch on the charger. Had I left it there overnight, it could well have burned the house down. We have seen three major fires in our subdivision that started from charging Li accessory batteries. Granted, those were years ago when Li was just beginning to replace Nickel Cadmium cells. But I make it a point to buy familiar brands I trust. <br />
I prefer to flip the old saying on its head:<br />
"FIRE, LIKE GOVERNMENT, IS A DANGEROUS SERVANT AND A FEARFUL MASTER."<br />
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<p>I agree, better than any safe is a good quality alarm company for both burglars and fire.  The response where I live is super quick as well.  I think since the advent of good alarm companies, burglaries are way down.</p>
<p>Not to say that a house couldn’t burn to the ground quickly, but recent fires in my subdivision have been modest, at best, and quickly contained.  Usually a scorched wall with siding damaged, or much less.</p>
<p>I live in a subdivision.  There are very few advantages to this, but the alarm system thing in suburbia is a big one.  Also, someone cleaning out my house mid day would raise eyebrows.  Lack of privacy can work both ways sometimes.</p>
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                    <title>1873man on Gun Safe Humidity</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>If you’re worried about fire the basement is the best place for a gun safe. You can control humidity inside a gun safe if it’s got a door seal. Heat rises and if the its on an upper floor it will be in the basement anyway after a good fire in the middle of the embers heated from all sides. I put a gun safe in the corner of the basement bolted to the wall up on some concrete block to get it off the floor so it has 3 cold sides and if I get water in the basement or from the fire department putting out the fire its off the floor. I then blocked it in top and the remaining side so I have only the door exposed. Smoke damage which starts rust right away is almost as bad as heat damage so a seal on the door is a must. Not the seals that expand from heat since by the time they expand the smoke is inside. </p>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Gun Safe Humidity</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The insurance industry says the most useful thing about a monitored security system is early fire detection and reporting. If heat and smoke particle sensors are wisely placed, the odds of stopping a fire before it can go over a 1 alarm event are greatly improved. This is more true if you live near a well equipped, full-time fire station. Suburban living has its disadvantages but a lack of quick firefighting response is usually not one of them. </p>
<p>Fires started by lightning strikes are impossible to predict and rare, although there was one in our subdivision. Otherwise, the likely trouble spots are near gas powered HVAC fire boxes and clothes dryers.</p>
<p>Unattended Lithium ion batteries being charged have exploded like Napalm canisters and burned houses to the ground. I think a lot of that starts with cheap no-name batteries and hot-shot chargers without overheat detection circuitry.</p>
<p>The Pacific Rim will build to whatever standard a manufacturer will pay for. I have never had a problem with Nikon, Canon, DeWalt, Bosch, and other quality brands.</p>
<p>I thought iGo lawn equipment batteries were overpriced but one lowball aftermarket substitute battery taught me the difference. It swelled up and got too hot to touch on the charger. Had I left it there overnight, it could well have burned the house down. We have seen three major fires in our subdivision that started from charging Li accessory batteries. Granted, those were years ago when Li was just beginning to replace Nickel Cadmium cells. But I make it a point to buy familiar brands I trust. </p>
<p>I prefer to flip the old saying on its head:</p>
<p>"FIRE, LIKE GOVERNMENT, IS A DANGEROUS SERVANT AND A FEARFUL MASTER."</p>
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                    <title>Anthony #5411 on 1866 Winchester   44 cal cf</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I will have to pull the other rounds out and compare the "Function Dummy", as the newly acquired "Dummy", looks awful similar to the "Function Dummy", to my naked eye. Taking some measurements and comparing the two, can solve that.</p>
<p>To have or find one "Function Dummy", is incredible, but to possibly have two, is pretty hard to find. IMO!</p>
<p>These came out of an old collection that I'm sure we're the cream of the crop, so to speak. More to possibly come.</p>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Tulsa Show Nov. 13-15</title>
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<p>TXGunNut said<br />
Jeremy, if you see an old fat guy along I35 about MM483 when you head out he'll probably spring for dinner if you slow down enough to let him climb in.<br />
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<p>HA! Well, I'm leaving about 5 am Saturday, so if you mean dinner Saturday, I'm in. That goes for anyone else...<br />
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<p>I don't think I'll be riding with you, only reason I'll be up at five is to pee. <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Wink" alt="Wink" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-wink.gif" /> I won't try to see the whole show but I figure I can see enough in a few hours to scratch that itch. We'll see.</p>
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                    <title>Anthony #5411 on 1866 Winchester   44 cal cf</title>
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Anthony said<br />
I chose to re open this great post, and informative gathering, on the .44 Henry Flat C.F. cartridge. In reference to Tim's great article in the Collector in the 2015 Spring edition, he details the cartridge in comparison to it's predecessor, the .44 Henry Flat cartridge.<br />
I'll post some more .44 Henry Flat C.F. cartridges;</p>
<p><img data-upload="1" data-width="2100" data-height="1128" title="44-Henry-CF2.JPG" alt="44-Henry-CF2.JPG" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/limestone304aol-com/2025/04/44-Henry-CF2.JPG" width="100" height="53" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3442" data-height="2581" title="IMG_9026.jpg" alt="IMG_9026.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/limestone304aol-com/2025/04/IMG_9026.jpg" width="100" height="74" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="4032" data-height="3024" title="IMG_9027.jpg" alt="IMG_9027.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/limestone304aol-com/2025/04/IMG_9027.jpg" width="100" height="75" /></p>
<p>The first cartridge is the French made, S.F.M.(explained above, very well, in a previous post by Maverick)<br />
The second is a, "Function Dummy".<br />
Third is a, "Salesman Sample", probably from a salesman's, or Jobbers kit. Which shows the one hole in it, from the kit vs. the the two hole Board Dummy. This cartridge contains the wood rod inside the case for mounting.<br />
The last two, have No head stamp, and are plain. As WRACo mfg. but at different times as the heads are different. As the fourth cartridge is probably the earlier one as it's a little more rounded, compared to the fifth one, which is last, and a flatter base.</p>
<p><img data-upload="1" data-width="4032" data-height="3024" title="IMG_9037.jpg" alt="IMG_9037.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/limestone304aol-com/2025/04/IMG_9037.jpg" width="100" height="75" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="4030" data-height="3022" title="IMG_9033.jpg" alt="IMG_9033.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/limestone304aol-com/2025/04/IMG_9033.jpg" width="100" height="74" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="4032" data-height="3024" title="IMG_9034.jpg" alt="IMG_9034.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/limestone304aol-com/2025/04/IMG_9034.jpg" width="100" height="75" /></p>
<p>These four are an extension of the two WRACo mfg. cartridges, as three appear to be the rounded based cartridges, and the other, the flatter based, and probably mfg. later than the rounded based cartridges.<br />
All of the above cartridges, have been inspected and confirmed, over time by some of the most formidable cartridge collectors world wide, including the late Dan Shuey.<br />
Anthony<br />
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<p>I thought that I would add these two newly acquired .44 C.f. cartridges, as one being a hard to find "Dummy", and the other just another hard to find very nice .44 Henry Flat C.F. with No H/S.</p>
<p><img data-upload="1" data-width="320" data-height="240" title="IMG_5644.jpeg" alt="IMG_5644.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/limestone304aol-com/2026/11/IMG_5644.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="320" data-height="240" title="IMG_5642.jpeg" alt="IMG_5642.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/limestone304aol-com/2026/11/IMG_5642.jpeg" /></p>
<p>Tony</p>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on Tulsa Show Nov. 13-15</title>
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<p><strong>TXGunNut said </strong></p>
<p>Jeremy, if you see an old fat guy along I35 about MM483 when you head out he'll probably spring for dinner if you slow down enough to let him climb in.<br />
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<p>HA! Well, I'm leaving about 5 am Saturday, so if you mean dinner Saturday, I'm in. That goes for anyone else...</p>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Y'all have fun, enjoy the BBQ! Tonight's meeting was postponed (local football team made the playoffs) and the forecast is looking bleak so I may slip off early Saturday if no one's looking. </p>
<p>Jeremy, if you see an old fat guy along I35 about MM483 when you head out he'll probably spring for dinner if you slow down enough to let him climb in.</p>
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                    <title>Ben on Tulsa Show Nov. 13-15</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Arrived yesterday… visited most of the gun shops … dry run…. Meeting for BBQ tonight with a few fellow WACA folks after getting my stuff into the venue… anticipation is building.  Weather is great today… supposed to be cooler tomorrow and downright chilly on Saturday.  Dress warm fellas.  </p>
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                    <title>Anthony #5411 on 2027…and beyond</title>
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<p><strong>1873man said </strong><br />
We would be a lot better off if everyone had to use a gun to kill game to feed yourselves instead of having the food magically appear in the supermarket. They would have respect for the firearm.<br />
Bob <br />
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<p>Another good point Bob!</p>
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<p>Well said Tony.</p>
<p>Thanks, Al!  I tried to keep it short, yet to the point! <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2026 18:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Gun Safe Humidity</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I suspect in a single-story house with a basement the ground floor would be best as the humidity can be difficult to control in a basement. As we know even a "fire-proof" safe is only rated for given temps for a short time. If the fire consumes the floor of the above-described house I suspect the firearms inside would be in serious trouble or very badly damaged. I live in a rural area so fireproofing would be a waste of money and safe space. My collection is well-insured, I don't worry as much about fire as other hazards. I believe every collector should take a hard look at their homeowners' insurance and firearms or collectibles insurance. Better now than when you need it.</p>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>We would be a lot better off if everyone had to use a gun to kill game to feed yourselves instead of having the food magically appear in the supermarket. They would have respect for the firearm.</p>
<p>Bob </p>
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<p><strong>Anthony #5411 said </strong><br />
I remember when my oldest Son, now 40 years old, was in College, years ago, and in a class in the Southern part of western Ohio, and on a scholarship. (The reason he chose that school over others was because the equipment manager, my older late friend, who we became friends with rather quickly, said if my Son picked that school, he could keep his Bow and firearms at his place off campus to deer hunt).  Anyway in class, the subject came up, because sadly, idiots we're shooting up classrooms somewhere, and all the bleeding hearts we're crying about the possibility of something happening, and not knowing what to do. After several week minded cry babies didn't have any idea on what to do or how to prevent it from happening, without the subject of removing guns, because they walk and talk and kill people, he raised his hand to draw attention, and got recognized, and told everyone of them in this left minded class room, that after barricading the door if possible with desks and such,  he would shoot and kill anyone who entered the room to do harm to anyone sitting in this class trying to learn what was being taught! DEAD SILENCE!!! He recited the Second Amendment, and how the American People of 1776 in this Country stood up against the Evil that would try to disarm them, is what this Country was and is founded on! He asked them, if they we're all gonna die like sheep, or maybe go down fighting, with a chance to survive!<br />
Freedom isn't free, and ignorance or stupidity will always be amongst us! I'm not quiting or giving up anything!<br />
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<p>Well said Tony. </p>
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I may be the only from my generation here, and I’m new but heres and 18yr olds 2 cents. <br />
over the last few years there have been some rulings at the federal level to protect our basic rights to guns, but many states are restricting that down to the bare minimum back to only these near century old guns. I believe if we let that keep happening it’s only a matter of time and politics before those are gone too. I can tell you the news doesn’t show it but there’s been a big push from my generation on guns and gun rights. My father got me into the model 70 world by his love for the rifle as his gun of choice at work. And my admiration for Carlos hathcocks work with “Americas rifle”. As it stands to me that is the only way to keep our freedoms free, go teach your kids and grandkids and neighbors to shoot, shoot safely and enjoy and exercise these freedoms. Already taught your kids and grandkids? What about that neighbor across the street with the youngin? Or the orphanage always looking for outdoor opportunities? The only way to keep and preserve these things is to exercise our rights to them. <br />
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<p>I totally agree with you. I believe they will not stop until all guns are removed from our hands.</p>
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This sums it up for me!<br />
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<p>Exactly</p>
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