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                    <title>tionesta1 (AL) on WACA at OGCA September 26&#038;27</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>My son Mark, and I, and my buddy Chuck had a great time at the OGCA show.  It was nice talking with Jeff, Lou, Henry, Tony, Vinny and others, and I know I missed meeting some of the other members who were there so that I could put a face to a name.</p>
<p>Al</p>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on WACA at OGCA September 26</title>
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<p><strong>James W said </strong><br />
I met Vinny for the first time, also. Wonderful gentleman. I even bought a lanyard off of him. Sorry I missed most of you there. I looked to find some WACA members. I only ran into Bo Rich. It was a really nice show.<br />
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<p>Vinny is an awesome representative and recruiter for WACA. You have another chance to meet the usual suspects in Cody, WY, July 9-11, 2027. See you there!</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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                    <title>James W on WACA at OGCA September 26</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I met Vinny for the first time, also. Wonderful gentleman. I even bought a lanyard off of him. Sorry I missed most of you there. I looked to find some WACA members. I only ran into Bo Rich. It was a really nice show.</p>
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                    <title>Brad Dunbar on Historical packaging</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Here is a photo from the Model 1895 book that we received from the National History Museum of Latvia.</p>
<p>This information was intially provided, and I think we found out a little more for the caption:</p>
<p><em>Soldiers of the First Daugavgrīva Latvian Riflemen Battalion receiving cases of ten each Winchester Model 1895 Muskets, ca. 1915, photographer unknown, holdings of National History Museum of Latvia.</em></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2026 18:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Michael Elli on W.T.B. LYMAN #38 D.A.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>To Ben and Bill, do appreciate the comments on this. Don't know if you guys saw the '94 on Gun broker about a month ago or so, buy that rifle had a #38 on it. Missed out on that auction. I think it went for around $1200-$1400 on the sale? Can't remember the exact price. </p>
<p>Ben do you remember that #21 you sold me a year or so ago? Still have it even found a box for it, not marked for that exact number, but close enough.  </p>
<p>Still thinking about buying this, I'm retired only a good investment. </p>
<p>Thanks again, Mike.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2026 17:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>JWA on Historical packaging</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Bert is correct, I have a Model 69A Match rifle 10-gun crate from circa 1951 that came with 10 Model 69's in individual cardboard boxes, shipped together in the 10-gun crate with a similar label as Bert's.  </p>
<p>I see your point though as anything pre-1890 was mostly in crates and curious to hear some of the other answers.</p>
<p>FWIW, here is a first year 1890 (solid frame) with the original (single) shipping crate.</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2026 04:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Historical packaging</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Wood crates were used well into the 1950s for the 10-gun shipments.</p>
<p>This crate held (10) Model 94 Carbines in the 1.73-million serial number range.</p>
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<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2026 04:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>DEEREHART on Historical packaging</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Lou's big score on the wooden crate got me wondering as to how individual rifles were shipped in the 1860s up until "cardboard" became the norm.</p>
<p>I have seen wooden crates for quantities of 10 for 1892s and 1894s. I would assume cardboard became the go to in the 20s to 30s unless it was a heavy or special.</p>
<p> Assume that rifles when in the warehouse were stored in upright racks until sent to shipping. From there they would be packaged and shipped to the necessary destination.</p>
<p>Was there a simple wooden crate made for each rifle? What would they have used to protect the finish (felt, canvas)? How did they protect from moisture.</p>
<p>There must be at least a few that have survived.</p>
<p> Thoughts</p>
<p> Doug</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2026 03:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Ben on W.T.B. LYMAN #38 D.A.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The price for the 38 is actually what they've been going for the last year... the sales tax &#038; shipping cost is just part of buying on ebay...  I wish I had a dozen or two, but I haven't had a decent 38 or 21 in quite a while... good luck.  BTW ~ Zeb, that 48F was a good purchase... if I had seen it, I would have bid myself for one of my custom early 52's (my 48F is mis-matched.) cheers.</p>
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                    <title>Zebulon on W.T.B. LYMAN #38 D.A.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Mike, for the condition you want, I don't think $600 plus is "overpriced" or very much so. I see the seller may accept a "best offer".  If the sight is to your liking you might want to make an offer.  The Lyman 38 is harder to find than the 21 and neither is easy. I don't own one but I 've been following their prices for twenty years. </p>
<p>The cheapest ones I've seen are those included in the sale of a beat up rifle. Usually those sights  take some restoration. </p>
<p>Buffalo Arms still advertises a Peabody type (Lyman 21) reproduction sight for about $170 USD but it has been "out of stock" for a while. New England Custom Gun used to make a considerably more expensive reproduction but doesn't catalog it that I can see. </p>
<p>I don't know whether the comparison is apt but I had been looking on and off for a Lyman 48F since about 2002. A local dealer had one back them but wanted $250 for it.  Too rich for my blood. I also wanted a Redfield 70E for a Model 94 carbine I owned and the dealer sold me a nice one for $35.  To give you an idea of the market. </p>
<p>When I got really serious a year or so ago about a 48F,  I was pointed to a fine specimen on eBay but it took $485 of the $500 I'd authorized Snipe to bid for me. The guy just behind me had bid only a couple of bucks less and there were any number of other bidders tapped out at $475-$480. Still, I've had several Winchester collectors scoff and tell me I paid too much. None of them could tell me where the cheaper ones were, however. </p>
<p>I hope you can prove me wrong. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2026 02:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Michael Elli on W.T.B. LYMAN #38 D.A.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>One that is complete, no damage, has all mounting screws. This will be going on a Modal '94 Carbine, 1929 production date. In other words, fully functional.</p>
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                    <title>Henry Mero on WACA at OGCA September 26&#038;27</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Yup; We just blew in from the Ohio show , gun rich and money poor. It was a great show, (6 more Mod. 1890's in the rack). I only need a few more You know<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" />. It was great to meet Al,  George, and Jessie's family , Who are My (almost) neighbours up here in Ontario. We had a nice chit/chat with Jeremy and Karen up at the Oberlin Hotel, great company. Brenda had a need to slide over to Frankenmuth Mi. to Bronner's Christmas Store so We left Wellington Sat. p.m. . If I had My 'druthers I'd 've rather stayed in Wellington but I run out of dissposable funds anyway and Brenda wouldn't advance My allowance <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Wink" alt="Wink" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-wink.gif" />, so here I am at home ,fondling My new acquisitions<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" /><img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" /><img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" /><img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" />.</p>
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                    <title>Anthony #5411 on WACA at OGCA September 26</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>I'm in full agreement with you! <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" /></p>
<p>Tony</p>
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                    <title>Anthony #5411 on OGCA/WACA September 26-27</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Bo,</p>
<p>You're welcome, as we need more fine young men in this hobby like you're son Jacob. What a very nice and king young man who I was impressed with last year as studious enough to listen and ask knowledgeable questions and share his prize from last year to us curious collectors who we're interested. </p>
<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>It was a pleasure seeing you and being able to listen to some advice that you we're so kindly sharing.</p>
<p>That's a shame you weren't aware of the WACA get together afterwards, as I couldn't stay but wasn't aware of it either in all honesty.</p>
<p>I was able to complete a few deals, that I had been working on for a short while, and also lay the ground work for some others. There was a few members who had a couple pieces that I was thinking about, but didn't pull the trigger on. <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" /></p>
<p>A very nice get together and sharing of like minded people. Thanks to all who contacted me and texted me to say hello!<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" /></p>
<p>Tony</p>
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                    <title>Jim McKee on WACA at OGCA September 26</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>It is always enjoyable to speak with Vinney Martin at OGCA.</p>
<p>Vinney thank you, your wife and the many others keeping Winchester alive!</p>
<p>Beautiful magazine and calendar!</p>
<p>Jim</p>
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