Zebulon said
Steve,  I think Ross -- the consummate sportsman -- designed a rifle with well trained and highly motivated Highland regiments like the Black Watch in mind. We can't know what he really thought about the Common Man, if he ever thought about him at all. But I suspect he had little sympathy for the trooper who got harelipped because "Ya dinna listen, Laddie." 
  

I agree, I'm not familiar with the Ross but enjoyed Ian's video and it seems like a very well-designed rifle. Apparently some military minds have seen the need to protect the soldiers from themselves so that they may protect their country.

Mike

Zebulon said
Absolutely. There's an expression that came into common use in the Nineteen Eighties, in contracts for the sale of an ongoing business, after industrial videos started being extensively used in-house as teaching tools:  "Show-How", a riff on "know-how." Show-how became shorthand for the intellectualM property businesses accumulate like assembly videos, maintenance videos, safety videos,  etc. 
This video is a great piece of show-how. Well produced, geat pacing, understandable narrative, enough camera time on the mechanisms for the viewer to grasp what's being shown. I watched parts of it twice. A great thing about show-how videos. 
Steve, I think I actually understand enough about how the Ross action operates- after watching this video -- that I can now see just how slick a .280 Ross sporter would be!
[However, I passed on the Jackson Armory Mk IIII and bought another 99 EG - a 250.]
  

My only disappointment with the video was not dealing with the, "mouse trap" aspect of the bolt head.  However, he does allude to the answer to the puzzle about the, "incorrect bolt disassembly" lore.  It's been conjectured that soldiers in the field were taking the bolts apart and them reassembling them incorrectly.  Really, they're taking their bolts apart?  

However, I find it much more probable they were simply taking the bolts out of their rifles.  I've had quite the variety of bolt actions rifles and I've taken bolts all the time.  And with nearly every bolt rifle, it's simple enough to put the bolt back in the way it came out.  The same can true with the Ross - for those with steady hands!  But when it snaps shut (i.e. retracts), you have to grab the bolt head and twist it.  To do this correctly, you need to pull the bolt forward while twisting it.  But if you don't pull it forward, and spin the bolt head in the opposite direction, some fiddling (as Ian demonstrated) could result in the outcome Ian achieved.  And all this from simply taking the bolt out and then faced with the task of re-inserting it.  Again, you're fine if it hasn't snapped shut - but if it has - you have no choice but to engage your intellect.

tsbccut said

Buck1967 said
Here is a good one. $3,000 for a $20 book supposedly signed by John Wayne 13 years after he died!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/236514569634?_skw=on+board+with+the+duke&epid=1032593&itmmeta=01KS2ANPEYR4H2AACN5PZ4A0ZZ&hash=item37115deda2:g:6a4AAeSwe5ZpNve1&itmprp=enc%3AAQALAAAA0GfYFPkwiKCW4ZNSs2u11xBK3HBOHlwU0oFEL7WZFgjHg8mdLSSbRVz%2BomBBK1UIgH5ltPUxv%2B4eZcPciXKP6%2F5wBoVZIqPHG1SStbSCYPtthuUnY2Ferbo18kgqikNJXuhJsMecDBVMiD4PdF%2Be3r5WaSBA%2FXGC6EO04EBdKbKgYQfMUMRjofHZVxnVzUIS%2FYa%2B52%2B4kNHKB1bekqSRFVQAbVINNW6F2wQ1bj7r2%2FYRGVGyyAl8qt1eCiZ15DPRHytEgoyTLzW3lCydjwP5H88%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9Tn1srIZw
  

Yikes,
I don't know what John Wayne's autograph is worth, but $3K seems quite high. FYI, per the seller's description, the autograph is written on a separate piece of paper that is taped to the first page of the book. 
  

No doubt the description acknowledges the signature is on a piece of paper but the title clearly says in “parentheses” signed by John Wayne in 1992! I’m not even sure that signature is legit and for sure I guess my point is it wasn’t signed by the Duke in 1992! 

On Board with the Duke by Bert Minshall (1992 SIGNED by John Wayne Hardcover) is the actual title of the ad

Tedk said
A New Phenomenon?
  

"Not hardly." - Jacob McCandles

Bert H. said
I found it interesting that the bolt rotates counterclockwise on the Ross, whereas my Remington 742 rotates the bolt clockwise when locking into battery.
Bert
  

That's because Ross was a heretical Scot who thought anything an Englishman did was effeminate and to be avoided. The poofy  Enfield rotated clockwise into battery. 

Ross was descended from men who fought naked in the dead of Winter, to avoid getting blood on their fine woolen kilts. 

steve004 said

Chuck said
The Winchester Lee Navy bolt will hit you in the face if assembled incorrectly.  It will also do it, even when assembled correctly, if you over power the charge.
You need to test the bolt after assembly and not shoot hot loads. 
  

Glenn DeRuiter learned this the hard way with the Winchester-Lee
  

Unfortunately no one but he knows what he did wrong and dead people can't talk. 

https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-hunting-shooting-reloading/loading-the-winchester-lee-navy/

I have never had any inkling of fear or concern when I shoot my 280 Ross. I do still check to make sure that the bolt head cams into the breech of the barrel even though I don't take my bolt apart. I think that the Ross design is brilliant. In fact, I just picked up a nice R-10 in .303 British recently. I'm looking forward to taking her to the range to see how she performs.

Tony

Chuck said
The Winchester Lee Navy bolt will hit you in the face if assembled incorrectly.  It will also do it, even when assembled correctly, if you over power the charge.
You need to test the bolt after assembly and not shoot hot loads. 
  

Glenn DeRuiter learned this the hard way with the Winchester-Lee

You need to test the bolt after assembly and not shoot hot loads. 

As the old Puritan minister said,  "Thee and me, Brother. Only thee and me. And sometimes I'm not sure about thee..."

Buck1967 said
Here is a good one. $3,000 for a $20 book supposedly signed by John Wayne 13 years after he died!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/236514569634?_skw=on+board+with+the+duke&epid=1032593&itmmeta=01KS2ANPEYR4H2AACN5PZ4A0ZZ&hash=item37115deda2:g:6a4AAeSwe5ZpNve1&itmprp=enc%3AAQALAAAA0GfYFPkwiKCW4ZNSs2u11xBK3HBOHlwU0oFEL7WZFgjHg8mdLSSbRVz%2BomBBK1UIgH5ltPUxv%2B4eZcPciXKP6%2F5wBoVZIqPHG1SStbSCYPtthuUnY2Ferbo18kgqikNJXuhJsMecDBVMiD4PdF%2Be3r5WaSBA%2FXGC6EO04EBdKbKgYQfMUMRjofHZVxnVzUIS%2FYa%2B52%2B4kNHKB1bekqSRFVQAbVINNW6F2wQ1bj7r2%2FYRGVGyyAl8qt1eCiZ15DPRHytEgoyTLzW3lCydjwP5H88%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9Tn1srIZw
  

Yikes,

I don't know what John Wayne's autograph is worth, but $3K seems quite high. FYI, per the seller's description, the autograph is written on a separate piece of paper that is taped to the first page of the book.