Are there any additional pictures of #196? The link you provided has just the single picture.

Bert,

Here are more pics of #196.

TXGunNut said

Bert H. said

TXGunNut said
Looking at that stamp I wonder if it passed through the Browning Brothers' shop more than once. 
 
Mike
  

Doubtful.  The stamped markings on it are correct for a late 1882 or early 1883 Browning Single Shot rifle.  The markings on it are identical to those on serial number 536.
Bert
  

Thanks, I was thinking they might have used "U.T." for Utah Territory instead of "Utah" for the early guns. Haven't been able to discover when they used the stamps we see. I was thinking a resale of the gun as a trade-in might explain what I thought was a later stamp. 
 
Mike
  

There are at least four different Browning markings that I have verified on Browning Single Shot and Winchester Single Shot rifles.

This is Browning Single Shot #536.  As you can see, it is nearly identical to the rifle Kirk acquired at Cody last month.

Bert

Bert H. said

TXGunNut said
Looking at that stamp I wonder if it passed through the Browning Brothers' shop more than once. 
 
Mike
  

Doubtful.  The stamped markings on it are correct for a late 1882 or early 1883 Browning Single Shot rifle.  The markings on it are identical to those on serial number 536.
Bert
  

Thanks, I was thinking they might have used "U.T." for Utah Territory instead of "Utah" for the early guns. Haven't been able to discover when they used the stamps we see. I was thinking a resale of the gun as a trade-in might explain what I thought was a later stamp. 

Mike

Bert H. said

To the best of my knowledge, none have been verified with a serial number greater than 536.  I suspect that the total number that were made was something very close to 550.
That display in 1997 was the same collector that set up his display at the Cody show just a few years later.  I spent more than 4-hours at the WACA show display talking to the fellow.  Unfortunately, I believe that he has since passed away.
Bert
  

I will try to find the small note about the quantity made. 

antler1 said

Bert H. said

antler1 said
What years were Browning brothers stamping any model of Winchester that were sold thru their shop?
  

Late 1885 through at least 1906.
Bert
  

This is one of the reasons I asked. It seems late in production to have a legit Browning Bros stamp.
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/4098/26/browning-bros-marked-winchester-model-1894-rifle
  

Pat,

The marking on that rifle is legit, but based on the position of the Browning marking, it was not one of the Patent payment guns shipped directly to Browning.  Instead, it is a rifle that was brought to Ogden to be serviced by Browning after it was originally shipped out west.  The serial number "348938" identifies it as an April 1907 production rifle.

Bert

Chuck said

Bert H. said

 About 15-years ago there was a display of (11) Browning Single Shot rifles at the annual WACA show in Cody.
I have photos in my research files for 20 of the Browning rifles, lowest serial number is 88 and the highest is 536.
Bert
  

In 1997 when the Cody show was in the gymnasium there was a display of the Browning single shots.  Most I've ever seen in one place.
Bert, do you know how many were made?  I have seen a document that says no more than 600?
  

To the best of my knowledge, none have been verified with a serial number greater than 536.  I suspect that the total number that were made was something very close to 550.

That display in 1997 was the same collector that set up his display at the Cody show just a few years later.  I spent more than 4-hours at the WACA show display talking to the fellow.  Unfortunately, I believe that he has since passed away.

Bert

Anthony said
This is a picture of Browning's S.S. rifle #196, that is seen on the Browning Historic Timeline page. 
 
https://www.browning.com/support/historic-timeline.html
 
Tony
  

Are there any additional pictures of #196?  The link you provided has just the single picture.

These are the markings on S/N 135. Note that both the Breech Block and the barrel have the Browning stamped marking;

This is S/N 212

Both of these rifles were chambered for the 45-70 Government

Bert

Bert H. said

 About 15-years ago there was a display of (11) Browning Single Shot rifles at the annual WACA show in Cody.
I have photos in my research files for 20 of the Browning rifles, lowest serial number is 88 and the highest is 536.
Bert
  

In 1997 when the Cody show was in the gymnasium there was a display of the Browning single shots.  Most I've ever seen in one place.

Bert, do you know how many were made?  I have seen a document that says no more than 600?

antler1 said

Bert H. said

antler1 said
What years were Browning brothers stamping any model of Winchester that were sold thru their shop?
  

Late 1885 through at least 1906.
Bert
  

This is one of the reasons I asked. It seems late in production to have a legit Browning Bros stamp.
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/4098/26/browning-bros-marked-winchester-model-1894-rifle
  

The rifle in question that you mention being mfg. in 1907, is very close to the end that Bert has mentioned. (1885-1906) Here's a picture of the stamps that have been found in regards to the Browning Brothers stamp variants, from Madis Book. I tried to use the smallest image and the least bytes but it still turned sideways. Anyway the 5 th stamp down from the top looks like the one on the 1907 mfg. M-1894. 

I'm not saying that the stamp is original or it's correct, as there's not a lot of printed material or information on these as far as I know. Bert can possibly add more. We have to remember that these we're applied by hand and maybe individually, as the beginning of the Browning stamp is double struck and hard to read. I'm not sure if stamps are in the Browning museum in Ogden, that could be verified as I've never been there. 

My guess is this could be correct. Just a guess!

Tony

Bert H. said

antler1 said
What years were Browning brothers stamping any model of Winchester that were sold thru their shop?
  

Late 1885 through at least 1906.
Bert
  

This is one of the reasons I asked. It seems late in production to have a legit Browning Bros stamp.

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/4098/26/browning-bros-marked-winchester-model-1894-rifle