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                    <title>mrcvs on 2027…and beyond</title>
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<p><strong>TXGunNut said </strong><br />
All I'll add to the political element of this thread is that we are seeing a swing that shouldn't have surprised most of us, we've seen it before. It will swing the other way. What concerns me is the demographics we see in our group and shooters as a whole. Some of us will see the day when the majority has never fired a gun and has no interest in doing so. I'm a bit cynical lately, just learned that development is a very real and immediate threat to the private range that was a big part of my retirement plans. We're becoming obsolete and antique, just like the guns we love. Shoot 'em if you got 'em!<br />
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Mike<br />
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<p>When I read this originally, I was thinking you gmeant the forum as a lot of members collect and don’t shoot.  But at least if the majority of members collect and do not shoot, that’s still okay as the interest is still there.  And, many of our members just shoot, and don’t collect at all.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2026 22:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>mrcvs on 2027…and beyond</title>
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How many of us are under 50 on this forum, or even under 60 or even 70?<br />
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<p>I was all of those until about two months ago. 🙁<br />
I figure the fight (AKA pendulum swing) will all be over modern stuff, not old stuff. <br />
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<p>Don't kid yourself.  The folks who would come after guns don't differentiate 'old vs new' or 'revolver vs semi auto'. In the first place, they simply want to get rid of guns, so they don't really care to make those distinctions. And secondly, I genuinely believe that for the most part, they're too ignorant of gun knowledge to understand the difference, and too lazy to try and become informed.<br />
Paul<br />
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<p>That is correct.  They don’t know the difference, if I had to guess, most legislators independent of their party wouldn’t know the difference between a rifle or shotgun, wouldn’t know centrefire vs rimfire ammunition, and the difference between a pistol and a revolver.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2026 21:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Brad Dunbar on Haven't magazine.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Deliveries improved quite a bit since yesterday, it should get better during the week.  Unfortunately, the far west seems to be later, more often.   </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2026 20:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Haven't magazine.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm... I must be on the "bad" list, nothing in my mail box <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Frown" alt="Frown" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-frown.gif" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2026 20:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Nevada Paul on 2027…and beyond</title>
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<p><strong>Jeremy P said </strong></p>
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<p>mrcvs said</p>
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How many of us are under 50 on this forum, or even under 60 or even 70?<br />
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<p>I was all of those until about two months ago. 🙁<br />
I figure the fight (AKA pendulum swing) will all be over modern stuff, not old stuff. <br />
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<p>Don't kid yourself.  The folks who would come after guns don't differentiate 'old vs new' or 'revolver vs semi auto'. In the first place, they simply want to get rid of guns, so they don't really care to make those distinctions. And secondly, I genuinely believe that for the most part, they're too ignorant of gun knowledge to understand the difference, and too lazy to try and become informed.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2026 20:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Nevada Paul on 2027…and beyond</title>
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<p><strong>TXGunNut said </strong><br />
All I'll add to the political element of this thread is that we are seeing a swing that shouldn't have surprised most of us, we've seen it before. It will swing the other way. What concerns me is the demographics we see in our group and shooters as a whole. Some of us will see the day when the majority has never fired a gun and has no interest in doing so. I'm a bit cynical lately, just learned that development is a very real and immediate threat to the private range that was a big part of my retirement plans. We're becoming obsolete and antique, just like the guns we love. Shoot 'em if you got 'em!<br />
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Mike<br />
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<p>Mike, I genuinely believe that the USA passed the point many years ago where 'the majority has never fired a gun, and has no interest in doing so'.</p>
<p>I never thought I'd see the day where that may be true in places like Nevada (where I live) or especially in Texas. But when I look at the Nevada maps for election results, the greatest majority of folks now live in two urban centers (Las Vegas and Reno) and they vote as though they'd be happy to never have to deal with firearms.</p>
<p>As for Texas, I really hope I'm wrong (I'm a native Texan and proud). But I never thought someone with the values of Greg Abbot could lose an election.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2026 20:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>tionesta1 (AL) on Haven't magazine.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I just received mine.</p>
<p>Al</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2026 20:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on New to WACA and ready for FUN!</title>
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<a href="mailto:george@georgeamlott.com" target="_blank">george@georgeamlott.com</a> said </p>
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.................. and no pending raffles!</p>
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<p>I saw your picture in the magazine...............Congrats!<br />
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<p>Thanks! It was pretty funny actually. It was Sunday the last day of the Cody show, and I'd been out all morning at the museum. When I finally showed up to the show about lunch, I walked in the door the exact time they were calling my name over the venue speakers. I threw my hands up and was like "What did I do?" and someone yelled "You won a gun!" Couldn't have timed it more perfectly.<br />
...also, extra funny since the day before I told that person I never win any raffles and wondered if Heather had even put my tickets in the pot. Clearly she had! (I never doubted you, Heather) 😉<br />
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<p>The rest of the story IMHO is the prize gun is actually a good shooter and fun to boot! And George, you may have noticed we're enjoying some of Jeremy's shotguns this month on the WACA calendar.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2026 17:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on 2027…and beyond</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>All I'll add to the political element of this thread is that we are seeing a swing that shouldn't have surprised most of us, we've seen it before. It will swing the other way. What concerns me is the demographics we see in our group and shooters as a whole. Some of us will see the day when the majority has never fired a gun and has no interest in doing so. I'm a bit cynical lately, just learned that development is a very real and immediate threat to the private range that was a big part of my retirement plans. We're becoming obsolete and antique, just like the guns we love. Shoot 'em if you got 'em!</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2026 17:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony #5411 on 2027…and beyond</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Naturally this is a Winchester Forum of like minded people and to not bring up the political side of this is hard to do. I'm in agreement with the members and won't back down from OUR, Second Amendment Rights , and value All who have paid their dues. Especially our Veterans. </p>
<p>When a certain element tries to erase History and facts and not teach the correct history in schools and to our young children, we have a brainwashed society, and no better way to change the up coming vote of the people.</p>
<p>We see it every where, when our high priced colleges teach what they want, and not the factual history! Sad!</p>
<p>Ronald Reagan sure was well known for some very interesting sayings!!!</p>
<p>My late father in Law used to say that you have to stand up for what you believe in, right or wrong in the eyes of others! As a WW ll veteran, Family man, hunter, shooter and a smith of firearms, I didn't understand exactly what he meant, until I took the time as I've gotten older and thought about it more! We always got along well and hunted together a lot and shared many a story, and fixed a lot of thing together growing pretty close, as My dad, another great guy, who didn't want to go hunting, but came to America at the age of 18 years old from the Fascist Country of Italy, never went back! Dad's stories we're interesting in them selves, and became a proud American Citizen, and paid his taxes like many other honest hard working people!</p>
<p>Henry I can understand you're situation and can appreciate you're stance as I have several friends from up you're way and they feel the same way!</p>
<p>Freedom isn't Free, and we need to hang tough!!! IMHO!</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2026 15:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>oldcrankyyankee on 2027…and beyond</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Henry, the Live Free or Die motto belongs to us here in New Hampshire. And we DON'T have "some of the strictest gun laws". I believe you are referring to the states below us, ie Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Jersey. But because they are all moving here now who knows what will happen. We now have all Democrat's in D.C.. And the only Republican to survive Tuesday was the governor! We here in the state could be in for a very rapid whirlwind of change. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2026 14:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Henry Mero on 2027…and beyond</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Well , here I am, up here in Ontario with a whole mess of Winchesters, Colts etc.and still gathering them up. I gotta admit it's become more difficult . especially for the hand guns , We can own them but can't buy, sell or trade 'em, so they are kinda useless, however like the frog going down the heron's throat with a firm choke hold on the heron, "never give up". Hand guns with a 4" or less barrel length are prohibited, as is any ,32 cal. hand gun, and one would need to have a "grand fathered" prohib' license to have one. We tryed the long gun registry, as a result of the Poly-Technic massacre in Montreal, it didn't work and was ineffective. and was so expensive I think it was breaking the Liberal gov't. The most recent stupidity up here is the Buy Back program, where you can turn in Your prohibited assault style rifles and get paid a nominal amount for them,that's not working out either. Now some of the Provinces want to control Their own gun laws. I believe We will eventally get a government that will appreciate and understand the North American Ideal of the right to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness , and the right of self defence , the way We got here and the need for the tools to do so. We , as a People, for the most part at least, have become more interested in wealth and prosperity, than in Our basic rights. One of the States with some of the toughest gun laws has a license plate and I believe, State Motto, "Live free or Die" . Well I find that just hypocritical. We, as a society, through Our elected governments have all but lost Our common sense when it comes to what those basic rights are, and how We maintain them. We don't punnish crime with appropriate penalties,(California justice right now 548 death penalty pardons), We allow the corruption that's gong on in government, We allow criminal activity , (drug Use etc.), to go on unchecked, then We go out and penalze the the Guy that has a collection of old GUNS, 'cause they may be dangerous, in order to buy some votes from the bleeding hearts out there. Anyways enough of My rants on this . I remember hearing similar discussions from the "old timers" 60 years ago, when I started collecting. I've talked way to longgggg<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Confused" alt="Confused" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-confused.gif" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2026 14:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on 2027…and beyond</title>
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How many of us are under 50 on this forum, or even under 60 or even 70?</p>
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<p>I was all of those until about two months ago. 🙁</p>
<p>I figure the fight (AKA pendulum swing) will all be over modern stuff, not old stuff. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2026 13:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Model 71 Peep sight adjustment</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The elevation screw is 1" (MOA) per click @ 100 yds.  The windage screw is 1/4" per click @ 100 yds.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2026 07:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Kenpo5 on Model 71 Peep sight adjustment</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know the click value on a 98A sight? Is it 1/4" at 100 yds</p>
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