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                    <title>Deg on out of bounds?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Ya, I jumped the gun before reading all the way through it. I might better be careful, or they may put me in timeout... </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 15:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Ben on out of bounds?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>re: "were all 39’s threaded?"   No.  The article points out that they used a modified P38 barrel... which I didn't know would fit... might be something to look into. 🙂   The "hush puppy" magazines were different... the side panels had large openings on both sides allowing full view of the round count.  I look for them to resell, they bring 5x's the price of a standard early 39 magazine...    </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 15:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Deg on out of bounds?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>that is an interesting acritical - were all 39's threaded?  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 14:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>mrcvs on Is the value of 75-98% Winchesters down sine the Election of 2024…or not?</title>
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<p><strong>steve004 said </strong><br />
I think the rifle below serves as an example of a Model 1892 rifle that is probably all original rifle but has little appeal to most.  It doesn't have condition for collectors.  It would have appeal to shooters but I believe such individuals are on the decline.  Most shooters already own rifles to shoot.  Factory .38-40 ammo is not inexpensive either.  <br />
The major failing here is what the seller thinks it's worth.  He is staggeringly far off in my opinion:<br />
<a href="https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1154032421" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1154032421</a><br />
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<p>The problem is the mentality that “it’s a Winchester” and it has to be worth a lot!</p>
<p>The problem also is that a lot of this stuff peaked about 20 years ago.  This rifle might have brought $1500 or more then.  Adjusting for inflation, one would think it should easily be worth $2200.  But it isn’t.</p>
<p>A general rule of thumb is you should try and double your money every 7 years.  That works ideally with the stock market, not so much with firearms.  The way the stock market has been, $1500 20 years ago is easily worth 5k.  It’s a tough pill to swallow if someone spent $1500 on this 20 years ago to find they might be lucky to get that now for it.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 14:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Ben on out of bounds?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Since we're already "out of bounds"... here's some information regarding the Smith &#038; Wesson 39 "Hush Puppy"....   yes, I want one... </p>
<p><a href="https://hushpuppyproject.com/hush-puppy-history/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://hushpuppyproject.com/hush-puppy-history/</a></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 14:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>steve004 on Is the value of 75-98% Winchesters down sine the Election of 2024…or not?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I think the rifle below serves as an example of a Model 1892 rifle that is probably all original rifle but has little appeal to most.  It doesn't have condition for collectors.  It would have appeal to shooters but I believe such individuals are on the decline.  Most shooters already own rifles to shoot.  Factory .38-40 ammo is not inexpensive either.  </p>
<p>The major failing here is what the seller thinks it's worth.  He is staggeringly far off in my opinion:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1154032421" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1154032421</a></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 13:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on out of bounds?</title>
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<p><strong>TXGunNut said </strong><br />
Another problem with the 39 is that the barrel lugs apparently didn't engage the slide in a consistent manner and vertical fliers were common. I really liked the grip and frame shape, for an alloy frame handgun it was very pleasant to shoot. <br />
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<p>Concur. The design was really advanced for 1955 and very comfortable to shoot. I've always preferred single-stack automatics and the 39 was "right-sized."  The factory barrel could be gunsmithed by adding to the lugs and then hand-fitting or there were custom barrels. Not cheap. I never owned one of the later 4-digit models but there was one little single-stack marked "Ladysmith" that burly male investigators really liked because it was so compact and reliable. Smith finally made a version of it without the feminine  rollmark. Of course, the 10-round P365 has pretty much made all the foregoing pocket nines obsolete. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 12:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Rhoffmann on Mod 12 Heavy Duck #1551510</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I recently purchased the original box for Winchester model 12  serial #1551510. The box lists it as heavy duck, 12 ga, 30” full choke barrel. Probably a long shot but I’d love to find it and reunite it with its original box one way or another. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 02:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Anyone ever seen one of these table mats?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Steve-</p>
<p>I've never understood why I'm drawn to the neglected stepchild of the 94 family. At least I'm in good company. It's not because my dollar goes further when I "settle" for a 32WS because I was drawn to them before I noticed that. Reloaders know there is no difference performance-wise between the 30WCF and 32WS, one will do everything the other will do and vice-versa. </p>
<p>I'm thinking these may have actually been mats used to protect a glass countertop or display case, I happen to have a table that needs a mat and one like that would be nice. I'll see what the Goles have to offer when we get to Cody.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2026 23:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>steve004 on Anyone ever seen one of these table mats?</title>
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<p><strong>TXGunNut said </strong></p>
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<p>steve004 said </p>
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<p>Tony Ford said<br />
32WS<br />
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<p>Yes!<br />
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<p>Steve-<br />
I'm pretty sure you can smell a 32WS just by looking at a good photograph!<br />
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Mike<br />
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<p>Mike - I'll admit I'm probably pretty transparent.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2026 19:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Anyone ever seen one of these table mats?</title>
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<p><strong>steve004 said </strong></p>
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<p>Tony Ford said<br />
32WS<br />
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<p>Yes!</p>
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<p>Steve-</p>
<p>I'm pretty sure you can smell a 32WS just by looking at a good photograph!</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2026 17:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on out of bounds?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Another problem with the 39 is that the barrel lugs apparently didn't engage the slide in a consistent manner and vertical fliers were common. I really liked the grip and frame shape, for an alloy frame handgun it was very pleasant to shoot. </p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2026 17:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on out of bounds?</title>
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<p><strong>Zebulon said </strong><br />
One last thing. The 39 was not drop safe; it had no firing pin block although it did have an inertial firing pin that did not rest on a live round. The 39A had a firing pin block. [For relevance, Colt's 1911 did not incorporate a firing pin block until Series 80 and higher. A cocked and locked Series 70 Colt dropped from 4' onto a hard floor will fire even though the sear was not forced. It wants a Titanium firing pin.]  Zebulon out.<br />
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<p>OH gosh.  The 39 can't be sent to Ca.  But if one's already here I could buy it.  The only Smiths that I have left are a 1990's 357 and a Schofield. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2026 16:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on out of bounds?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>One last thing. The 39 was not drop safe; it had no firing pin block although it did have an inertial firing pin that did not rest on a live round. The 39A had a firing pin block. [For relevance, Colt's 1911 did not incorporate a firing pin block until Series 80 and higher. A cocked and locked Series 70 Colt dropped from 4' onto a hard floor <em>will </em>fire even though the sear was not forced. It wants a Titanium firing pin.]  Zebulon out.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2026 13:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>steve004 on Anyone ever seen one of these table mats?</title>
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<p><strong>Tony Ford said </strong><br />
32WS<br />
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<p>Yes!</p>
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