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                    <title>Jeremy P on Somthing not often talked about here</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>CMP is releasing some M14s late this year or early next (supposedly)...not sure how they'll price them or how they'll modify them.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 18:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on Somthing not often talked about here</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I have never even picked up a M 14. We got M 16's.  Three of my friends and I went to lunch Saturday and they all liked their M 14"s.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 17:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Steven Gabrielli on Somthing not often talked about here</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Well the M14 was an unmitigated disaster both manufacturing and maintenance wise. There is an unjustified romance with the M14, but its release and use early in Viet Nam was not what it appears. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 17:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on Somthing not often talked about here</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing, and it surly is a reminder of what was said as far as how important Winchester played in the War effort.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing!</p>
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<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 17:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on Somthing not often talked about here</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Nice set up.  What vintage is the rifle?</p>
<p><img data-upload="1" data-width="3024" data-height="2268" title="IMG_1234c.JPG" alt="IMG_1234c.JPG" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/cwachter/2026/07/IMG_1234c.JPG" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 17:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on Somthing not often talked about here</title>
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<strong>TXGunNut said </strong><br />
Looks like you have the makings of a calendar photo. Winchester's war efforts are a major part of the history of the company.<br />
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Mike<br />
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<p>As Zeb said...and its troubles!  But yes, submit these for a calendar spot!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 13:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Somthing not often talked about here</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The original WRACO was very patriotic and suffered for it. 1918 Cancellation of the Enfield contract put it on the road to insolvency.</p>
<p>Abrupt termination of the M14 acquisition program by DOD damaged the Winchester-Western Division's gunmaking profitability badly and its losses were the impetus for hiring the Ford Motor Company geniuses who ruined the Winchester Sporting line in 1964.</p>
<p>That Winchester greatly - even unduly - benefitted from America's wars is a myth based on ignorance. </p>
<p>A good argument can be made.that Winchester's reward for arming America for war was being driven out of the gunmaking business. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 02:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MidwestCrisis on Somthing not often talked about here</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Very nice, great group. Love to see it. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 02:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Buck94 on Somthing not often talked about here</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Great looking photos! Looks to be in great shape for the age. Unfortunately, my fathers was not so lucky. Still my favorite though!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 01:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Somthing not often talked about here</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Looks like you have the makings of a calendar photo. Winchester's war efforts are a major part of the history of the company.</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 00:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>oldcrankyyankee on Somthing not often talked about here</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>My neighbor stopped over today and knowing I had  Winchester Garand, he donated this paratrooper case and bayonet to the cause. They probably don't match up but it was pretty nice to have. I thought I would put it out there as we seldom talk about the efforts winchester for the war effort. <img data-upload="1" data-width="3024" data-height="2268" title="IMG_1236.JPG" alt="IMG_1236.JPG" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/oldcrankyyankee/2026/07/IMG_1236.JPG" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3024" data-height="2268" title="IMG_1234.JPG" alt="IMG_1234.JPG" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/oldcrankyyankee/2026/07/IMG_1234.JPG" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3024" data-height="2268" title="IMG_1236-1.JPG" alt="IMG_1236-1.JPG" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/oldcrankyyankee/2026/07/IMG_1236-1.JPG" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3024" data-height="2268" title="IMG_1234-1.JPG" alt="IMG_1234-1.JPG" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/oldcrankyyankee/2026/07/IMG_1234-1.JPG" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2026 23:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jim F in CT on Seeking advice regarding purchase of a new original 1860 Henry (US-made replica)</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I bought the Uberti Henry . . . .engraved version .  . . offered by Taylor’s . . . .</p>
<p>It is in 45 Colt.</p>
<p>It has MUCH better wood (with the trapdoor butt plate) and metal polish than the standard, non-engraved model.<br />
Barrel flats do NOT have rounded edges!</p>
<p>I’ve shot it many times with my handloads . . . .and found that it prefers bullets of .454”, rather than the common .452”.</p>
<p>(I feed it the Keith-style SWC . . .one-at-a-time, ‘cause they hang up when magazine fed)</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2026 16:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>426crown on I need Help!  Looking for a reference book regarding Model 1866 and 1873 Winchesters</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Jamie--Look for Volume 1 of the Art Pirkle book on the 66 and 73. Do a google search for Winchester rifle books, and don't buy the 1st one you find, some sellers are greedy--Bill</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2026 15:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on I need Help!  Looking for a reference book regarding Model 1866 and 1873 Winchesters</title>
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<strong>Jman said </strong><br />
Greetings to everyone!!!<br />
Today I became a member of the Winchester Arms Collectors Association.  I’m pretty excited to learn more about the history of Winchester and converse with some knowledgeable people in the field.<br />
Im looking for a good reference book regarding the Winchester Model 1866 and 1873.  I hoping to locate a book with plenty of photos, that emphasizes on the production, variations, roll marks, and stamping.  Should anyone out there know of a couple of good books??  Let me know.  Thanks!!!!<br />
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<p>Welcome Jman,</p>
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<strong>1873man said </strong><br />
Jman,<br />
Welcome to the forum. I mostly into the 1873 and am doing a survey on them. I would suggest the Winchester Book by Madis. It covers most the models but does have some inaccuracies and pictures are not great. That is the book I started out with. For the 73 alone, Winchester's New Model of 1873: A Tribute by Jim Gordon. Expensive but loaded with good info and great pictures. What the different stamps looked like through out production. The other one which does have some good parts is The 1873 Handbook by George Stone. <br />
Bob<br />
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<p>As Bob stated, and I'm in complete agreement, you can't go wrong with his suggestions! IMHO! I will add that the older book by Harold F. Williamson, "Winchester The Gun that Won the West", is an older reference also, but not only will help tremendously on the Winchester History, but very affordable as far as a Reference book goes, and understanding why Winchester made some of the interesting moves they made, due to the economic times, way back when!</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2026 15:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on I need Help!  Looking for a reference book regarding Model 1866 and 1873 Winchesters</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to WACA!</p>
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