If you look close, further down the line, you can see Lou Lutrell (top, middle of the image in the tan shirt) talking to Doug Hart (DEERHART here on the forum).

Best Regards,

TXGunNut said

There's no substitute for being in Cody for the WACA show. The pics are just teasers...and some of us look much better behind a keyboard than in front of a camera. Come see for yourself next year!
 
Mike
  

Hmmm....  I am not sure that I believe that!  My bet is most of us are much uglier and scarier in person than on a video cam or pictures... I know that I certainly am !!

I personally agree with Whelen, as did quite a few owners of Model 70s in 257 ROBERTS back in the day.  It is not uncommon to find M70s in Roberts whose magazine box, follower, spring, extractor collar/bolt stop extension, and ejector were replaced with the Group V-a (standard) parts to permit loading longer spitzer bullets without seating them well into the case.  

The only difference between the 7 M/M (V-b) and Standard (V-a) action is the magazine spring, which on the 7 M/M was given a slightly different "set" when hardened.  I presume this had something to do with the body taper of the 7x57mm case.  The springs were identical (made from the same part) before hardening.

On both the Swift (Group II) and Roberts (Group IV), the #4 ejector went with the "Swift" extractor collar/BSE.  The ejector was necessarily longer than Standard to adjust for the shorter bolt throw caused by the BSE.  It has nothing to do with Swift being a semi-rimmed case, just the bolt throw.  The slanted partitions in the #6 (Swift) versus #5 (Roberts) magazine box dealt with the semi-rimmed issue while using the same "Short" follower and magazine spring.  Swift, Roberts, and the 308 Winchester based cartridges all used the Standard extractor b/c they have the same case head diameter.

I know this would be easier to understand with pictures, but the whole chapter is over 40 pages long (!!!)...  If you want a picture of something specific I can post it here...

Best,

Lou

MidwestCrisis said
After all bar fights that happened over a barrels length, or the front sight being .76 from the muzzle, or the length of a fore end….   We won’t see anything from Cody until those involved want to speak of it publicly. 
  

Y'all gotta remember I'm from Texas where tall tales are a traditional pastime.

Mike

James W said
Did anyone put any videos of the Cody Gun show to see on the internet? On Facebook or anyplace? I don't see any. I only saw one short video of the National Anthem.
  

There's no substitute for being in Cody for the WACA show. The pics are just teasers...and some of us look much better behind a keyboard than in front of a camera. Come see for yourself next year!

Mike

It makes most things clear and is a very  useful document. 

I recall the late Townsend Whelen opining that owners of a Model 70 chambered for the 257 Roberts would do well to replace the bolt stop, magazine box,  follower and possibly the ejector to allow the rifle to function with the longer spitzer bullets the Roberts needed to perform well.  

I note the Roberts was furnished with the "220 Swift" ejector whereas the 7mm Mauser got the "Standard" ejector.  

I'm not sure why the short cartridge group would need an ejector designed to cope with a semi-rimmed case but assume the reason had more to do with the length of the Lee Navy case than rim and groove details.

But the Roberts is based on the 7mm Mauser case, for which a Standard ejector is furnished. 

Curiouser and Curiouser but I guess they did what actually worked. 

Look at the Table below, which gives the action components by Chambering.  You may need to consult your copy of Rule's book for pictures.  Since the FWT was chambered for Standard length (270 WIN, 30-06), Short (243 WIN, 308 WIN, 358 WIN), and Short Magnum (264 WIN MAGNUM) cartridges, they were built with internal components adapted to Cartridge Groups IV, Va or VIb depending on chambering.

The defining characteristics of the Featherweight were the barrel contour, stock, and aluminum components.  The other action parts were determined by Caliber, not Style.

Hope this Helps,

Lou

MidwestCrisis said
After all bar fights that happened over a barrels length, or the front sight being .76 from the muzzle, or the length of a fore end….   We won’t see anything from Cody until those involved want to speak of it publicly. 
  

James W said
Did anyone put any videos of the Cody Gun show to see on the internet? On Facebook or anyplace? I don't see any. I only saw one short video of the National Anthem.
  

Video taping in the show is prohibited without express permission as authorized by WACA officers.  There will be many photos of the displays and WACA table holders in the next edition of the Winchester Collector magazine.

Bert

Below is a clip from the December 1955 Winchester catalog showing the calibers and stock styles available at the time.

As Zeb said, from 1952-1955 the Featherweight was only available in 308 WIN with either low comb or Monte Carlo stock.  The caliber offerings expanded in 1955.  None of these rifles came with a factory-installed recoil pad.  Butt plates were originally aluminum but were replaced by plastic in 1958-1959.  The "Featherweight-Westerner" in 264 WIN MAGNUM was only cataloged in 1963 (most were made in 1962) and featured a factory-installed ventilated recoil pad.

Hope this helps,

Lou