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                    <title>mrcvs on Inflated prices? </title>
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<p><strong>Buck1967 said </strong><br />
I see this every day on ebay. You have sellers who think they are going to retire on an item. Even crazier is when you can easily search and see there are multiple of the same item for sale on ebay and you wonder how in the world did they come up with that price. One of their craziest was a guy trying to sell a  Chief Crazy Horse box and sleeve for $3,495 when you could buy the rifle, box and sleeve every day on Gun Broker for $1200 to $1500. I just don't know if they are stupid or insane?<br />
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<p>This is why, frankly, eBay sucks.  It isn’t what it used to be.</p>
<p>At one time, eBay was an auction place, for sake to the highest bidder.  And, even guns at one time.  Then they became anti 2A and banned that.  Even worse, it’s now become just a marketplace for overpriced items, vendors hoping for the first sucker who comes along and an item is listed repeatedly.  Which is well over what the item would bring at auction.</p>
<p>And, when one item is listed overpriced then other similar items get listed at the same overinflated prices.  There’s a book I want to use for photographing a Winchester for the calendar.  It is of limited interest, has been listed again and again well over a year, and likely worth about $15 at best.  It’s for sake for $90.  Then another one pops up, this vendor now thinks his is worth at least $90.  And so it’s listed for )125.</p>
<p>The internet desperately needs a real auction site, penny start, an item hammers at what it hammers at.  GunBroker used to be like this and it, too, has largely become an overpriced marketplace.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 22:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Inflated prices? </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Based on the PR records, pre-WW II production ended at serial number 68433 on February 12th, 1943.  Production was resumed in January 1946 with the last serial number in that month being 6877. A total of (342) receiver frames were serialized in January of 1946.</p>
<p>The survey data that Michael has documented appears to very closely agree with the serial and date range in which Winchester discontinued drilling &#038; tapping the upper tangs for a peep sight.  For Model 94, it was in mid June 1942 when the D&#038;T hole in the upper tang was discontinued.  The first (lowest) Model 94 serial number verified thus far without a D&#038;T tang sight hole is 1337730 (6/11/1942).</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 21:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Inflated prices? </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>eBay does not charge a dime for listing an item -- or several hundred items. I've wondered if listings like this don't have some underlying purpose, such as creating an impression among the innocent that, wow, this guy has some really neat stuff! I can't afford that jewel but maybe he has something less expensive.  ??</p>
<p>Or maybe he expects to get side-offers. </p>
<p>And there's always the remote - but not impossible - chance that a slow-witted trust beneficiary may happen by and fall into the net. </p>
<p>Or he's ignorant as dirt, as you say. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 21:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Rick C on Inflated prices? </title>
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<p><strong>Blue Ridge Parson said </strong><br />
That particular "seller" on eBay overprices everything that he has to sell at about 200% to 300% of actual real world pricing (In some cases, even more!)  Were  I in need of such a sight, I would bide my time; one will come up for MUCH less than that.<br />
BRP<br />
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<p><strong>Buck1967 said </strong><br />
I see this every day on ebay. You have sellers who think they are going to retire on an item. Even crazier is when you can easily search and see there are multiple of the same item for sale on ebay and you wonder how in the world did they come up with that price. One of their craziest was a guy trying to sell a  Chief Crazy Horse box and sleeve for $3,495 when you could buy the rifle, box and sleeve every day on Gun Broker for $1200 to $1500. I just don't know if they are stupid or insane?<br />
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<p>I agree with both post and yes, stupid and insane apply!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 21:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Buck1967 on Inflated prices? </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I see this every day on ebay. You have sellers who think they are going to retire on an item. Even crazier is when you can easily search and see there are multiple of the same item for sale on ebay and you wonder how in the world did they come up with that price. One of their craziest was a guy trying to sell a  Chief Crazy Horse box and sleeve for $3,495 when you could buy the rifle, box and sleeve every day on Gun Broker for $1200 to $1500. I just don't know if they are stupid or insane?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 20:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Inflated prices? </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p><img data-upload="1" data-width="3024" data-height="4032" title="20240626_110434.jpg" alt="20240626_110434.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/zebulon/2026/05/20240626_110434.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3024" data-height="4032" title="20240626_110449.jpg" alt="20240626_110449.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/zebulon/2026/05/20240626_110449.jpg" />Concur.  Rick's mint, tapped 61 shouldn't be messed with but he needs relief from that open rear sight. </p>
<p>My 1949 62A is not all original, having been competently reblued before I got it, so I had no qualms about a current production Marble's tang peep with windage adjustment and a tall, fat white bead up front. </p>
<p>I grew up in a very "inclusive" Gulf Coast farm town-turned-postwar-exurb, where everybody was from somewhere else. </p>
<p>Most were country folk who moved there to work in the petroleum industry after the war.  A half-Comanche, several swamp-loving Cajuns who fished <em>every day </em>after work, East Texas farm boys, and a family of Arkansas hill people who made lye soap in their garage.</p>
<p>Every one of the men had one thing in common: they hunted seriously and I suspect some were poachers. Nobody seemed to have a lease. </p>
<p>Another thing these men had in common was Winchester brand rifles that were old enough not to have been factory tapped for optics -- but <em>all of which wore Weaver K-series scopes. </em>In one case, a 6X.  </p>
<p>I doubt if there was a high school diploma among them, although most were highly skilled at some trade. They certainly ate a lot of fish and game. Although I never asked, the concept of keeping their Winchesters "factory original" didn't seem to be something they understood or cared about. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 17:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Blue Ridge Parson on Inflated prices? </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>That particular "seller" on eBay overprices everything that he has to sell at about 200% to 300% of actual real world pricing (In some cases, even more!)  Were  I in need of such a sight, I would bide my time; one will come up for MUCH less than that.</p>
<p>BRP</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 15:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>twobit on Inflated prices? </title>
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<p><strong>Zebulon said </strong><br />
I can't remember when, if ever, the Model 61 tang was factory drilled and tapped for a tang sight. Maybe initially but I don't think so post WWII. </p>
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<p>The Model 61 was indeed drilled and tapped on the small upper tang for fitting a peep sight there.  From the begining of production until during the 68000 SN range.  That puts it into early 1946 but I believe these are pre WWII manufactured receivers that were used when production restarted after the war. </p>
<p>Michael</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 15:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Rick C on Inflated prices? </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Bill, I have an early(1937) mint model 61 that is factory drilled and deserves a mint tang sight but, not for more than I paid for the gun. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 15:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Inflated prices? </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I can't remember when, if ever, the Model 61 tang was factory drilled and tapped for a tang sight. Maybe initially but I don't think so post WWII. </p>
<p>I have a Lyman 66 NIB for the 61 but it would require tapping the left receiver wall and the first 61 I owned had already been tapped for top mount Weaver bases, as many have been. A collector's nightmare, I put a 2X Leupold Compact  in really low rings on it. That rifle became an unholy terror to squirrels messing with timer wires on our lease game feeders.</p>
<p>I remember one November afternoon, sitting under a big Liveoak that faced a feeder 40 yards away. Inside an hour, a big red squirrel ran up the feeder legs, ate the corn lying on the spinner platen, and then sat up like he was going to make a speech. Missed his head by an inch but the HV hollowpoint struck the steel leg bracket right behind him and the lead fragments instantly put his lights out. </p>
<p>Not ten minutes later, a second squirrel, larger than the first one, ran up a feeder leg, checked the platen for corn, and then sat up. I paid more attention to the trigger and did not miss.</p>
<p>You may not believe this, but within another half-hour, a <em>third </em>squirrel ran over the bodies of his two defunct pals, up the feeder leg and assumed the position. Bang. Fried squirrel for supper and no more chewed wires for that season. </p>
<p>When I found a later, grooved receiver Model 61, I sold the other one but discovered the little 2X would not position in the grooves for good eye relief. Too short in the body. A 4X compact did the trick but would not set quite as low.</p>
<p>The Model 61 is too accurate for its factory iron sights and really wants a telescopic sight. As fond as I am of receiver sights, this particular little Winchester is best fitted with compact glass for hunting, which is its true purpose. Not a kid's rifle. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 14:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Rick C on Inflated prices? </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>$1300 + tax for a sight and $400 for an empty box. The sight has been on there for a couple years. Worth half ? </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 12:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>James W on Consecutive serial numbers.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Wow!! That would really be something to have. I wonder how much they sold for.</p>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Members online?</title>
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<p><strong>TXGunNut said </strong><br />
I'd like to know how we got 21294 members online at one time. I'm absolutely certain it wasn't one of my posts!<br />
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Mike<br />
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<p>Chinese BOTs.  Fortunately, we have some built in screening programs that prevent them from posting anything.</p>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Members online?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I'd like to know how we got 21294 members online at one time. I'm absolutely certain it wasn't one of my posts!</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 01:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Got it<br />
TY</p>
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