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                    <title>Dirtman324 on Winchester model 12-28 ga question</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I'd also be interested! I haven't collected as long as Scott,but any good W.A.C.A member would recognize his name from his wanted ad in the magazines!</p>
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                    <title>Nevada Paul on Winchester model 12-28 ga question</title>
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<p><strong>Scott Wagner said </strong><br />
Steve and all Winchester fans!  I've collected Winchester model 12 and 42 shotguns for 45 years, been fortunate to acquire a nice collection.   I look forward to more discussion and contribution of all things Winchester! <br />
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<p>Scott, I'd love to hear and see more about your collection, especially the 42s.</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2026 16:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Scott Wagner on Winchester model 12-28 ga question</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Steve and all Winchester fans!  I've collected Winchester model 12 and 42 shotguns for 45 years, been fortunate to acquire a nice collection.   I look forward to more discussion and contribution of all things Winchester! </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2026 16:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Winchester model 12-28 ga question</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Word of a real 28 gauge Model 12 has been known to stir interest among former WACA residents of the Cody cemetery. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2026 13:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>steve004 on Winchester model 12-28 ga question</title>
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<p><strong>Scott Wagner said </strong><br />
Hi Beth, That is an interesting and likely original prewar 28 gauge.  The 800,xxx serial number falls within a confident serial number block range.  I'm interested!   Scott <br />
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<p>I believe Scott must be very interested.  This is his first and only post in 22 years!  <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2026 12:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Scott Wagner on Winchester model 12-28 ga question</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Beth, That is an interesting and likely original prewar 28 gauge.  The 800,xxx serial number falls within a confident serial number block range.  I'm interested!   Scott </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2026 00:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Ecjohnson14 on Winchester model 12-28 ga question</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi!  </p>
<p>I hope this finds you all well. I inherited a Winchester model 12 a28 ga shotgun from my dad and am curious if there are any suggestions on the best way to sell it? </p>
<p>I haven’t ever shot the gun (supposedly it’s only be shot like 4 times) and am hoping it can find a new home with another owner.  I’ve emailed the Cody center in WY for a certification letter but am curious for other user’s experiences selling a similar gun. </p>
<p>The serial number is in the 800k range. </p>
<p>Winchester model 12 -28 ga</p>
<p>Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome. thank you! Beth</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2026 22:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on What a new Model 1876 cost in 1877-78</title>
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<p>Ah Yes, but also NO. You are correct, simply based on a rate of inflation calculator. But the 1877 money was backed by the Gold Standard and the U.S. Dollar was until 1971. Thank you Richard Nixon.<br />
So its more accurate to compare the value from the weight of $60 worth of gold coins to the current value of gold today. Because back then money was gold or silver and not worth nothing like it is now! And the value of the weight of just the gold is irrespective of the value of the gold coin.<br />
Now take a look what it would be if you had a qty. of 60 dated silver 1877 $1 Trade Dollar coins.<br />
Value Breakdown<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[[2,[null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,[351768,null,0]],[],null,1]]--></p>
<p>Total Silver Weight:<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--> 60 coins × 0.7876 troy ounces = 47.256 troy ounces<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--> of pure silver.<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--><!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--><!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--><br />
Current Silver Price:<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--> $57.38 per troy ounce<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]-->.<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--><!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--><!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--><br />
Total Melt Value:<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--> 47.256 oz × $57.38/oz = $2,711.55<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]-->.<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--><!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--><br />
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Collector Value vs. Melt Value<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[[2,[null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,[351768,null,0]],null,null,1]]--><br />
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It is crucial to note that U.S. trade dollars are highly sought-after historic items. You should never melt them down<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]-->, as their numismatic (collector) value dwarfs their raw silver value. Even in heavily worn or circulated condition, a genuine 1877 trade dollar regularly sells for $175 to $400+ per coin<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]-->. For a collection of 60 authentic coins, the market value could realistically range from $10,500 to well over $50,000<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]-->, depending heavily on their condition and mint marks.<br />
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So basically almost as close as the same amount of money in silver vs gold by comparison.<br />
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If I only had a time machine.<br />
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<p>Many years ago, my mother invested in a lot of silver.  She figured out that the profit margin was the same percent for gold and silver and it was cheaper to buy silver.  She bought the silver for $8 per ounce and sold it for $40 when the Hunt brothers tried to corral the market.  She also sold all of the silver coins in her collection.  They brought a higher price per ounce.   But not all gold or silver is worth the same per ounce.  Some bars or coins will bring more money when sold buy will cost more to buy.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2026 17:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on Recent Tax Stamp Ruling</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>There have been some rumors lately about relaxing these rules.  Anyone seen anything in writing?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2026 17:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Henry Mero on Recent Tax Stamp Ruling</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Many years ago I had a fairly impressive Marlin display, including a fine Model '94, 15" trapper in .44 cal. from the Chilean Mounted Police, that was purchased for Me by a friend in Mexico, plus a mod. 1893 , 15" short rifle. They were not listed as exempt with the B.A.T.F.. As a Canadian We would get all the paperwork done  months in advance , for the B.A.T.F., U.S. and Canada Customs, and the U.S. Marshall's, in order to display at a show in the U.S., it was much easier then, just send Them a detailed list of items for display, and or sale. It usually took about 3-4 months and the approvals would be granted. One of our earliest shows and club meetings was in Denver ,They were just building "Mile High Stadium" at the time, maybe 1975 or '76. I took 35 lever action Marlins including the 15" trapper and a Model '93, 15" short rifle. I was all set up and during the show the local authorities came to My table and were going to confiscate My short guns, I guess some jealous person had reported them. Anyway I told them They couldn't have them , then doled out all the paperwork from the B.A.T.F.  in Atlanta, U.S. Customs and also the Federal Marshall's Office, clearing them for display. Well to make a very long story a bit shorter, They wanted Me to remove them from the table , I refused, saying they would be gone when the show was over. They left, after some very strong words, very disgruntled and leaving behind several possible threats if I so much as got caught "j"walking. We managed to escape in Our 1957 Ford Fairlane with a lot of well wishes and congrats from Our fellow collectors and a nice engraved model 1893 Marlin.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2026 13:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Henry Mero on What a new Model 1876 cost in 1877-78</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>You could say the same holds true for these old Winchesters, they are worth a lot more intact than they would be if melted down. That $60.00 deluxe 1876 in mint condition , almost priceless, but melted down , about $5.00<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Wink" alt="Wink" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-wink.gif" /></p>
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                    <title>Brad Dunbar on Houston Gun Collectors Association Show, Oct. 30 - Nov. 1, 2026</title>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2026 09:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MidwestCrisis on Recent Tax Stamp Ruling</title>
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<p><strong>Jeremy P said </strong><br />
There's a few (seemingly) reputable YouTube channels with 2A attorneys discussing this topic. I've heard from one of them that there will be an opportunity soon to "deregister" anything you previously got tax stamps for, but I haven't heard much more. All of this is dependent on how the next election or two goes though, I'm sure, so I'm not getting too excited just yet.....but, it is the best time to buy an SBR or suppressor as there's ever been!<br />
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<p>What he said.  Unless you live in a communist state like mine.  Henry, anything under 16” is an SBR in the USA, so to own a trapper under 16” it has to be on the list of serial numbers the ATF has.  There are some long threads on the forum discussion questionable SBR trappers.  Why did our government come up with an agency to regulate everything I'm addicted to. Just my luck.  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2026 02:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Maverick on What a new Model 1876 cost in 1877-78</title>
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<p><strong>30gov03 said </strong><br />
That $60.00 in 1877 translates to $1,914.17 in 2026.<br />
What passes for a dollar ($1.00) in 2026 would only get you 3 cents ($0.03) in 1877.<br />
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Jim<br />
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<p>Ah Yes, but also NO. You are correct, simply based on a rate of inflation calculator. But the 1877 money was backed by the Gold Standard and the U.S. Dollar was until 1971. Thank you Richard Nixon.</p>
<p>So its more accurate to compare the value from the weight of $60 worth of gold coins to the current value of gold today. Because back then money was gold or silver and not worth nothing like it is now! And the value of the weight of just the gold is irrespective of the value of the gold coin.</p>
<p>Now take a look what it would be if you had a qty. of 60 dated silver 1877 $1 Trade Dollar coins.</p>
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<li class="Z1qcYe"><span class="iNqyIf"><strong class="rQesXe MPyX">Total Silver Weight:<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--></strong> 60 coins × 0.7876 troy ounces = <strong class="rQesXe MPyX">47.256 troy ounces<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--></strong> of pure silver.<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--></span><!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--><!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--></li>
<li class="Z1qcYe"><span class="iNqyIf"><strong class="rQesXe MPyX">Current Silver Price:<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--></strong> <strong class="rQesXe MPyX">$57.38 per troy ounce<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--></strong>.<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--></span><!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--><!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--></li>
<li class="Z1qcYe"><span class="iNqyIf"><strong class="rQesXe MPyX">Total Melt Value:<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--></strong> 47.256 oz × $57.38/oz = <strong class="rQesXe MPyX">$2,711.55<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--></strong>.</span><!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--><!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--></li>
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<div class="ZLzG0d ncoeY E8xBUb">Collector Value vs. Melt Value<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[[2,[null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,[351768,null,0]],null,null,1]]--></div>
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<div class="n6owBd awi2gc">It is crucial to note that U.S. trade dollars are highly sought-after historic items. You should <strong class="rQesXe MPyX">never melt them down<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--></strong>, as their numismatic (collector) value dwarfs their raw silver value. Even in heavily worn or circulated condition, a genuine 1877 trade dollar regularly sells for <strong class="rQesXe MPyX">$175 to $400+ per coin<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--></strong>. For a collection of 60 authentic coins, the market value could realistically range from <strong class="rQesXe MPyX">$10,500 to well over $50,000<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;&#124;[]--></strong>, depending heavily on their condition and mint marks.</div>
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<div>So basically almost as close as the same amount of money in silver vs gold by comparison.</div>
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<div>If I only had a time machine.</div>
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<p><strong>Henry Mero said </strong><br />
What is a SBR<br />
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<p>Short barreled rifle</p>
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