I am strictly a Model 70 collector.  I do not own any of the few M70s pictured in Madis' book.  There was one, a M70 Super Grade, pictured in Madis that came up for sale a while ago but I didn't chase after it.  IIRC it had a couple "issues" that worried me.

I do, however, have several M70s pictured in the Rule and/or Whitaker books in my collection ("several" may be an understatement depending on your perspective). 

Does being pictured in a book "add value"?  Or "proof" of legitimacy??  Not IMHO...  What it does is to prove that the rifle existed prior to 1981 and 1978, respectively.  So at least I know they weren't faked yesterday...

Here's one, pictured in Whitaker's M70 book.  The only one like it that I know of belongs to an esteemed WACA member.  They are the same...  But it's not something that would interest a lever gun collector...

Best,

Lou

Got the 1st flt to Newark on Thursday--was not a fun flight. The gentleman next to me had been fly fishing in Sun Valley, and knew he lost his son. Decided shortly there after to retire to SV, and did in July 2003--Bill

1873man said
If I was going to make a tool, I would start with a pipe the right diameter and thickness and then mill or grind away whats not needed.
Bob
  

That's another good suggestion, applying equal pressure on both notches. That reminds me of an older tool made similar for working on an appliance like a washing machine. In the automotive industry the Spindle Nut wrench set is just that. And the opposite end is usually made for a 1/2 inch extension to fit into a ratchet.

Tony

Best Regards,

Are your sure that is not a 1918 Artillery Model?  That is what it looks like to me. But I am certainly no expert, I just sit on them....

Best Regards,

Sincerely,

Maverick

Bob

Henry Mero said
My thoughts prayers and rememberances to Anyone on the forum involved, on that very unforgettable day in American/Canadian history.
  

Henry,

I will never forget that Day! 

Tony

1873man said
Tony you started a good thread here. We all are learning something new. I looked through my parts box and found another style of bushing so I started to look through my guns and I found that the first models have the scallops and not a slot. Where you would need a special tool to remove it. The one with the slot is second model.  I don't know if there is a exact serial number that they changed  but its between 27,000 and 40,000 from a quick look through my gun safe. Tonight I will have more time to look.
Bob

Bob,

Very intriguing. IMHO! You're pictures show us a lot!

Now as I look, I can see the small scallops, vs. the slots! You're picture of the slotted second model bushing, shows the courser threads, as I guessed they would be a finer thread. That's the second guess I had wrong in this thread post! LOL!

I'm thinking maybe due to the B/P, that Winchester figured due to moisture seepage into the threads, over time, that the courser threads would be more applicable.

That surely would require a special tool, as a spanner wrench comes to mind as we used to use, for things as were needed. But a specially made hardened tool, wouldn't be out of the question. Something seewin would make in his shop, as he saw a need for, if he chose. Back in the day before we had the "Crow Foot" wrenches, we would take an extra, open end wrench and cut them on the band saw, and make our own version of a "Crow foot" wrench, welding an old socket we cut apart for the 1/2 inch square drive section to fit on an extension, to remove the hydraulic lines, that we're stacked up against a bank of hose fittings on the hydraulic control valves, on a said machine as we needed. I remember years ago talking to George Madis on the phone about his tractor, and telling him that story. He had that chuckle for a laugh, that I'll never forget. Crazy as we would submerse the hot parts we made in oil, to harden them, somewhat. Still have those old homemade tools and such, as we'll wind up handing them down to a couple youngsters we're schooling. 

Looking forward to you're added information.

Tony