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                    <title>218Bee on Hard shipping case for a 38” Win 94 carbine?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you sir.  Will check them out.</p>
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                    <title>steve004 on Winchester M-1866 and M-1873</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Tony -</p>
<p>Thanks for posting this.  Like so many threads here, it's an opportunity to increase my knowledge.  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2026 23:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on Winchester M-1866 and M-1873</title>
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<p><strong>Anthony said </strong><br />
First of all, I want to thank all you gentlemen for not only answering, and stepping up to the plate, so to speak, but the volumes of knowledge that came forward is second to none!<br />
Chuck, TR, Bill, Bob, and <strong>Jeremy</strong>,<br />
The WACA Forum just keeps on rolling out, information along with it's quality opinions!<br />
Bob,<br />
Thanks for setting me straight on the "+", stamping on the firing pin. My assumption was premature! The slots make sense to me now as a flat bladed "turn screw", would certainly do the trick! I would imagine it's a fine thread and maybe proprietary to Winchester.<br />
Bill, <br />
With you're pictures and explanations, you certainly spelled out, the difference and similarities of the M-1876, as I wasn't sure.<br />
Chuck, I completely understood you're point, and TR, I am in full agreement with you, as far as being a step that wasn't needed or required as Winchester, previously thought!<br />
Tony<br />
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<p>Just to be clear Anthony, I did absolutely nothing here! <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" /><img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" /><img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2026 23:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on Winchester M-1866 and M-1873</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>First of all, I want to thank all you gentlemen for not only answering, and stepping up to the plate, so to speak, but the volumes of knowledge that came forward is second to none! <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" /></p>
<p>Chuck, TR, Bill, Bob, and Jeremy,</p>
<p>The WACA Forum just keeps on rolling out, information along with it's quality opinions!</p>
<p>Bob,</p>
<p>Thanks for setting me straight on the "+", stamping on the firing pin. My assumption was premature! The slots make sense to me now as a flat bladed "turn screw", would certainly do the trick! I would imagine it's a fine thread and maybe proprietary to Winchester.</p>
<p>Bill, </p>
<p>With you're pictures and explanations, you certainly spelled out, the difference and similarities of the M-1876, as I wasn't sure.</p>
<p>Chuck, I completely understood you're point, and TR, I am in full agreement with you, as far as being a step that wasn't needed or required as Winchester, previously thought!</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2026 22:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Do you have rifles or shotguns featured in The Winchester Book?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I do... a few of my Single Shot rifles are pictured in the Model 1895 book.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2026 22:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>1873man on Do you have rifles or shotguns featured in The Winchester Book?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The round barrel cutaway 73 in full nickel that is pictured at the bottom of my posts is pictured in it. </p>
<p>Bob</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2026 22:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>1873man on Winchester M-1866 and M-1873</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Tony,</p>
<p>The Bushing on the first models like the top photo of Bill's post you can see a slot on each side of the firing pin. With the pin removed you can put a common screwdriver in it and its threaded in. The bushing has a radius milled on the inside end of it that matches up with the radius of the pin so it had positive stop going forward.  </p>
<p>What I understand is the 123 or CCC were 3  inspections or tests done to the barrel and was not the violent proof. You first had the CCC then for short time they had +++ right about the start of the 2nd model the the 123 showed up along with the VP proof.</p>
<p>I have seen the + on firing pins but not all and I have seen it on first model pins and on later ones. I never did a in depth look at it taking firing pins out to see if its a serial range thing but I would doubt its a replacement indication. My guess it was a inspection mark. </p>
<p>Bob </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2026 21:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TR on Winchester M-1866 and M-1873</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>  The bushing was extra machining, maybe they decided it wasn't necessary. I've never seen a worn out hole in the bolt. T/R  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2026 21:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on Do you have rifles or shotguns featured in The Winchester Book?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I do not but some of my friends do or did.  Over the years when the book was revised pictures changed. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2026 21:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bill Hockett on Do you have rifles or shotguns featured in The Winchester Book?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I was just looking through my worn, sticky-noted and pencil marked copy of "The Winchester Book."   I have owned many Winchester rifles over the years, but never had one that was featured in the book.   I do always look when I get another Winchester.  </p>
<p>How about you?   Do you have any rifles or shotguns that were featured in the book?  A previous owner's collection still counts.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2026 21:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on Winchester M-1866 and M-1873</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I should have explained that the busing was used to take up the terrible headspace the rimfires had. This moved the bolt face up against the case. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2026 21:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bill Hockett on Winchester M-1866 and M-1873</title>
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<strong>Anthony said </strong><br />
In regards to these two models, and especially the early model 1873, as I'm not sure about reason that the "Bushing", was used on the bolt, face where the firing pin extrudes, or strikes the cartridge, in the closed breach. These are evident naturally when the breach is opened, revealing the bolt face. I am aware that Winchester did modify the design on the later model 1873's, and eliminated the bushing.<br />
Not sure if the early M-1876 had this or not? Bill Hockett, please feel free to add you're comments on this! <br />
So my question is for Bob, (1873 man), TR, and others to comment here, why was it used or what was the purpose in these early designs?<br />
Was the bushing a hardened material, (steel), for wear purposes, that Winchester decided possibly wasn't needed?<br />
Tony<br />
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<p>Tony, apparently the Model 1876 followed this design change like the Model 1873.  Madis backs this up on page 233 of my 1 of 1000 edition of "The Winchester Book."</p>
<p>See photos below.  SN 9911 is a second model and has the bushing.  SN 33812 is an early third model and has the solid face breechbolt.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2026 21:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on Winchester M-1866 and M-1873</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>On the Henry and 66 the firing pin was screwed onto the rod that went all the way back to the hammer. This and a roll pin kept everything together including the bolt and extractor.  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2026 21:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on Greetings</title>
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<p><strong>Henry Mero said </strong><br />
Yeah Mark ,You're about 7 hours from Seaforth/Egmondville, down on the other end of Lake Huron. I am also planning on attending the Ohio show, if Donald will let Me in to the country.<br />
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<p>I don’t know Harry.  You are a  very suspicious looking character. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2026 21:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on Greetings</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome Mark,</p>
<p>You'll enjoy it! The OGCA/WACA Show is a nice get together.</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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