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                    <title>Buck1967 on Consecutive serial numbers.</title>
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<p><strong>oldcrankyyankee said </strong><br />
My mind wanders sometimes. Lately it has been looping around the idea of have guns with consecutive serial numbers, pick your poison for models.  My question is, how do others feel about it? Do you place a higher value on the guns as a pair or simply the gun is the gun, is it something you strive for in your collection, I am just noodling around. <br />
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<p>The Blue book of gun gun values says you can add $100 to the value for a consecutive pair and while conventional wisdom says it increases value, I don’t see it in real life. I watch auctions a lot and when consecutive serial #’s are sold together they tend to sell for less than 2 sold individually. My thoughts are it simply lowers the pool of buyers interested at that price point? I have watched smart sellers list each gun separately but note they are a consecutive pair and those do better than if they are sold together. I don’t personally see the big deal in consecutive serial #’s except for my buddy who did a consecutive set of 67 Winchester Classics ( Rifle and Carbine) with his son and well that is meaningful beyond $’s. His son is 12 and they hunt together and the thought is some day when the son has his own son, grandpa will pass down his rifle to his son and the son will give his carbine to his son. For those lucky enough to get dads or grandpa’s rifle passed down, I would imagine the Value on that is priceless! Just my 2 cents. Curious what others think?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2026 10:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on Consecutive serial numbers.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Consecutive serial numbers will add to the value.  How much depends on the condition and rarity.  Here is one set I stumbled upon</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2026 02:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>oldcrankyyankee on Consecutive serial numbers.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>My mind wanders sometimes. Lately it has been looping around the idea of have guns with consecutive serial numbers, pick your poison for models.  My question is, how do others feel about it? Do you place a higher value on the guns as a pair or simply the gun is the gun, is it something you strive for in your collection, I am just noodling around. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2026 01:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>86Win on Winchester and the .280 Ross</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I just found a W R A 280 cartridge in my junk. I don't need it. Anyone interested in it? Don</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2026 13:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Winchester and the .280 Ross</title>
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<p>Bert H. said </p>
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<p>steve004 said<br />
I’m trying something very new for me.  I’m going to see if I can post photos directly – without using my usual outside hosting site.  I have tentative optimism that I will be successful.<br />
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<p>Now that you have mastered the direct upload, I am commanding that you continue doing so!<br />
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<p>I'll do my best!  As least I have the instructions to refer back to. Assuming I can find them again<br />
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<p>I have confidence that you will...</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2026 20:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>steve004 on Winchester and the .280 Ross</title>
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<p><strong>Bert H. said </strong></p>
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<p>steve004 said<br />
I’m trying something very new for me.  I’m going to see if I can post photos directly – without using my usual outside hosting site.  I have tentative optimism that I will be successful.<br />
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<p>Now that you have mastered the direct upload, I am commanding that you continue doing so!<br />
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<p>I'll do my best!  As least I have the instructions to refer back to. Assuming I can find them again<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Embarassed" alt="Embarassed" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-embarassed.gif" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2026 20:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Winchester and the .280 Ross</title>
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<p><strong>steve004 said </strong></p>
<p>I’m trying something very new for me.  I’m going to see if I can post photos directly – without using my usual outside hosting site.  I have tentative optimism that I will be successful.<br />
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<p>Now that you have mastered the direct upload, I am commanding that you continue doing so! <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" /></p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2026 19:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>kevindpm61 on Winchester and the .280 Ross</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Pictures worked Steve! You certainly have some rare and interesting rifles. I have to say that I am a bit jealous.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2026 18:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>steve004 on Winchester and the .280 Ross</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Bill mentioned his Browning T-bolt staight-pull .22 rimfire.  I don’t have a T-bolt but I do have a pair of straight-pull .22’s.  They are both Ross Cadets of course and the one with the checkering is a one-of-a-kind special order. They are commercial Cadets, which are not often seen.  Nearly all the Cadets you will find are military versions. The plainer Cadet was available in Canada only.  It is identified by a buttplate specific to that variation.  A fellow Ross collector has only seen three in 70+ years of Ross collecting.<img data-upload="1" data-width="640" data-height="208" title="IMG_7849.jpg" alt="IMG_7849.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/steve004/2026/05/IMG_7849.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="640" data-height="290" title="IMG_7827.jpg" alt="IMG_7827.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/steve004/2026/05/IMG_7827.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="562" data-height="640" title="IMG_7862.jpg" alt="IMG_7862.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/steve004/2026/05/IMG_7862.jpg" /></p>
<p>I’m trying something very new for me.  I’m going to see if I can post photos directly – without using my usual outside hosting site.  I have tentative optimism that I will be successful.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2026 17:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on Colorado Collector's Show May 16-17</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I'll be there on Thursday.  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2026 17:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>steve004 on Winchester and the .280 Ross</title>
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<p><strong>450 Fuller said </strong><br />
CAPT Herbert Mc Bride, an officer in WW I with both the Canadian and  US Army, writes of the Ross rifle chambered in .303 British that was used as a general infantry rifle and sniper version with some effect in France. His rare " A Rifleman Went to War" outlines the Canadian use of the Ross rifle in WW I. It is a well-written and documented  account.<br />
The effectiveness of the .280 Ross in Africa might have been somewhat enhanced had solid bullets been more available or perhaps controlled expansion bullets similar to those now made by Nosler, Woodleigh, and Swift. WDM "Karamoja" Bell was successful using the .275 Rigby (7X57 Mauser cartridge) against elephant due to a long parallel- sided  solid metal-cased bullet of about 175 grs at medium velocity, very accurately placed.<br />
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<p>I've read this book.  It's recommend it.  Capt. McBride had quite a war experience and he describes it well.  Written by a man who was there.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2026 16:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>450 Fuller on Winchester and the .280 Ross</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>CAPT Herbert Mc Bride, an officer in WW I with both the Canadian and  US Army, writes of the Ross rifle chambered in .303 British that was used as a general infantry rifle and sniper version with some effect in France. His rare " A Rifleman Went to War" outlines the Canadian use of the Ross rifle in WW I. It is a well-written and documented  account.</p>
<p>The effectiveness of the .280 Ross in Africa might have been somewhat enhanced had solid bullets been more available or perhaps controlled expansion bullets similar to those now made by Nosler, Woodleigh, and Swift. WDM "Karamoja" Bell was successful using the .275 Rigby (7X57 Mauser cartridge) against elephant due to a long parallel- sided  solid metal-cased bullet of about 175 grs at medium velocity, very accurately placed.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2026 14:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>steve004 on Winchester and the .280 Ross</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>As we know, Ross was not the only one to build a straight pull rifle.  There's quite a few examples to be had.</p>
<p>Here is a Steyr straight-pull built up by Peterlongo of Innsbruck that I have:</p>
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<p>And what a difference light can make in showing the wood:</p>
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<p>I don't completely avoid modern rifles.  Here's a  Mauser .270 <span style="text-decoration: underline"><strong>WCF</strong></span> (<em>trying to keep some <strong>Winchester</strong> in the topic)</em> I have with sights that I can actually see well enough to hit a target with:</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2026 14:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>steve004 on Winchester and the .280 Ross</title>
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<p><strong>kevindpm61 said </strong><br />
Steve, I didn't know that you had a Ross website in the past. I can only imagine the amount of work that it entails. I loathe scammers and hackers!<br />
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<p>Yes, it turned from something I did for enjoyment into a lot of unpleasantness.  It got to the point that I was receiving hundreds of spam registrations per day.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2026 14:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>kevindpm61 on Winchester and the .280 Ross</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Steve, I didn't know that you had a Ross website in the past. I can only imagine the amount of work that it entails. I loathe scammers and hackers!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2026 14:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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