Winchester Collector - Forum: General Discussions & Questions https://winchestercollector.org/forum/general-discussions-questions/ Simple:Press Version 6.11.14 Zebulon on out of bounds? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/general-discussions-questions/out-of-bounds/#p178350 General Discussions & Questions https://winchestercollector.org/forum/general-discussions-questions/out-of-bounds/#p178350 One last thing. The 39 was not drop safe; it had no firing pin block although it did have an inertial firing pin that did not rest on a live round. The 39A had a firing pin block. [For relevance, Colt's 1911 did not incorporate a firing pin block until Series 80 and higher. A cocked and locked Series 70 Colt dropped from 4' onto a hard floor will fire even though the sear was not forced. It wants a Titanium firing pin.]  Zebulon out.

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Tony Ford said
32WS
  

Yes!

Cool

]]> Sat, 18 Apr 2026 11:47:55 +0000 Deg on out of bounds? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/general-discussions-questions/out-of-bounds/#p178334 General Discussions & Questions https://winchestercollector.org/forum/general-discussions-questions/out-of-bounds/#p178334 I can confirm that I do not own a Model 39 but I am certain I have a set of wood grips and I am fairly certain that I have 2 single stack magazines too (it would only make sense that is what those go to. They came in a package deal with something else I was wanting. One of those, you have to buy all of this if you want that deal.

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Deg said
Sweet - thanks for all of that good information guys - glad I mustered up the courage to ask 
  

I'll neither confirm nor deny having a Model 39...PM if you need a duty holster or magazine pouch. Wink

 

Mike

]]> Sat, 18 Apr 2026 02:48:05 +0000 Deg on out of bounds? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/general-discussions-questions/out-of-bounds/#p178331 General Discussions & Questions https://winchestercollector.org/forum/general-discussions-questions/out-of-bounds/#p178331 Sweet - thanks for all of that good information guys - glad I mustered up the courage to ask 

]]> Sat, 18 Apr 2026 02:43:47 +0000 Zebulon on out of bounds? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/general-discussions-questions/out-of-bounds/#p178320 General Discussions & Questions https://winchestercollector.org/forum/general-discussions-questions/out-of-bounds/#p178320 Those are indeed for a Smith 39.  The model was introduced in the mid-Fifties about the same time Colt's Commander started being chambered for the 9mm Parabellum. NATO was pushing for the nine to become the standard sidearm and subgun cartridge and Smith and Colt each fielded a proposed American officer's pistol.  The Army conducted a trial of sorts but the idea went nowhere. 

The Model 39 and its hi-cap sibling Model 59 rocked along with modest civilian sales until Vietnam. In the late Fifties and through all of the Sixties I never saw one in a store because they were in demand by troops headed for Southeast Asia. Nine millimeter was available at American bases because other NATO allies did provide some troops. I'm told it was provided in pre-loaded Browning P-35:magazines, just as 45 ball came in preloaded 1911 magazines. A friend who served as a Junior artillery officer said the P-35:was popular with gun crews, who were very busy but feared being overrun. 

I took a like-new and in-the-box Model 39 as a fee about 1970 and found it innovative, reliable, accurate, and well-made but hard to feed -- it liked ball and not much else. I traded it straight across for  a brand new Browning 22 automatic (the little takedown rifle) and a Hartmann-style factory hard case to go with it. That pistol was still hard to find and the dealer wanted it. 

]]> Sat, 18 Apr 2026 01:50:23 +0000 TXGunNut on out of bounds? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/general-discussions-questions/out-of-bounds/#p178319 General Discussions & Questions https://winchestercollector.org/forum/general-discussions-questions/out-of-bounds/#p178319 Pretty sure Steve is right, some of the other S&W single stack autos including Performance Center pistols had very similar grips. 

 

Mike

]]> Sat, 18 Apr 2026 01:37:33 +0000 Tony Ford on Anyone ever seen one of these table mats? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/general-discussions-questions/anyone-ever-seen-one-of-these-table-mats/#p178318 General Discussions & Questions https://winchestercollector.org/forum/general-discussions-questions/anyone-ever-seen-one-of-these-table-mats/#p178318 32WS

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Chuck said
1911 and 1911 A 1 grips are similar to these 1911 grips in shape.
  

That is what I was thinking but I am certain Steve has it nailed. I am going to find someone who has a 39 and check it out. 

]]> Sat, 18 Apr 2026 00:11:11 +0000 Chuck on out of bounds? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/general-discussions-questions/out-of-bounds/#p178306 General Discussions & Questions https://winchestercollector.org/forum/general-discussions-questions/out-of-bounds/#p178306 Colt-1911-L.JPG1911 and 1911 A 1 grips are similar to these 1911 grips in shape.

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steve004 said
I don't know why as I'm not much of a S&W guy - but my immediate reaction was Model 39.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1152602106
  

you know - you are very likely correct! 

]]> Fri, 17 Apr 2026 19:00:10 +0000 steve004 on out of bounds? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/general-discussions-questions/out-of-bounds/#p178298 General Discussions & Questions https://winchestercollector.org/forum/general-discussions-questions/out-of-bounds/#p178298 I don't know why as I'm not much of a S&W guy - but my immediate reaction was Model 39.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1152602106

]]> Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:27:05 +0000 Deg on out of bounds? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/general-discussions-questions/out-of-bounds/#p178296 General Discussions & Questions https://winchestercollector.org/forum/general-discussions-questions/out-of-bounds/#p178296 I am pretty confident these go to a 1911 but I cannot seem to find any with the top of the cutting on the left grip (right in pictures) and I cannot find any information with the checkering pattern like this. Any ideas? 

1a.jpg1b.jpg

]]> Fri, 17 Apr 2026 17:38:00 +0000 mrcvs on out of bounds? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/general-discussions-questions/out-of-bounds/#p178294 General Discussions & Questions https://winchestercollector.org/forum/general-discussions-questions/out-of-bounds/#p178294

Deg said
Is it safe to ask a S&W question?
  

Yes, go for it!

]]> Fri, 17 Apr 2026 17:34:17 +0000 Deg on out of bounds? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/general-discussions-questions/out-of-bounds/#p178293 General Discussions & Questions https://winchestercollector.org/forum/general-discussions-questions/out-of-bounds/#p178293 Is it safe to ask a S&W question?

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