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                    <title>Anthony on Model 1873 question</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>My initial thought on this was that it wasn't necessarily a mistake by Winchester , as we've seen in the past, and even recently, that Winchester's advertising publications of the time we're just that, and in many cases, a caliber, such as the .405 caliber and the .35 caliber for the model 1895 we're advertised, as in Winchesters plans, and seen a year previous as either experimental cartridges or calibers that we're produced by them. </p>
<p>Like Bert said let's see what Bob has to say, but I also have thoughts on the advertising of the .22 C.F cartridge in the advertising, Bert showed us, and find it interesting, as I feel it was in their plans, but it didn't develop, as they had issues with their Take Down design, that they scrapped, after only 5 months of production in 1884,(July/1884 - January/1885) but continued they're production of the 73/22 for several years.</p>
<p>We know Winchesters Advertising department was second to none, as far as self promoting, as getting these catalogs out to their jobbers and or distributors was everything, back in the day. The .22 WCF, was first developed by Winchester in 1884. The .22 short was first developed by S&#038;W, in 1857,(with a few others in between), which we know was purchased by Oliver Winchester. Stetson's patent of 1871, for the .22 short is well documented, and this being a short version, many of us are aware of this. Naturally there's a lot more to this as far as the history of the cartridges, but I'm trying to stay on point.</p>
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<p>Tony</p>
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                    <title>steve004 on Model 1873 question</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting.  My initial speculation was that it was a mistake.  Wires crossed with the advertising department.  What furthers my speculation is that the .22 rimfire came out in 1884 and this is an 1885 catalog - and there is not mention of the .22 rimfire?</p>
<p>When is the .22 rimfire first mentioned in a catalog?  And while I'm at it, was it offered in .22 short, .22 long and .22 extra long (i.e. all mentioned in the catalog)?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2026 12:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Model 1873 question</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>This post is directed to Bob (1873man), but I invite all to participate and weigh in with any pertinent comments or information.</p>
<p>I discovered something very odd while looking at my November 1885 Winchester catalog (No. 39) to answer a question that Chuck posed... and the answer is, No, it is not marked "No. 39" anywhere on or in the catalog.</p>
<p>Now, getting back to the reason I am posting this, I discovered that somebody at Winchester apparently thought that they were going to manufacture the Model 1873 lever-action repeaters for the .22 center fire (WCF) cartridge.  Below, I have included a scanned copy of pages 8, 9, and 13 that indicate that the Model 1873 was offered in the 22 center fire cartridge!</p>
<p>My question... did this really happen?</p>
<p><img data-upload="1" data-width="1350" data-height="2010" title="November-1885-Catalog-Pg-8.jpg" alt="November-1885-Catalog-Pg-8.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/bert-h/2026/08/November-1885-Catalog-Pg-8.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="1350" data-height="2000" title="November-1885-Catalog-Pg-9.jpg" alt="November-1885-Catalog-Pg-9.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/bert-h/2026/08/November-1885-Catalog-Pg-9.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="1966" data-height="1222" title="November-1885-Catalog-Pg-13.jpg" alt="November-1885-Catalog-Pg-13.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/bert-h/2026/08/November-1885-Catalog-Pg-13.jpg" /></p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2026 06:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Gun humour!</title>
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Evidently working on another deal!!!<br />
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<p>I most likely was pondering a deal... but that is nothing new!<br />
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<p>There's no grass growing under you're feet my friend, I'm glad to see!<br />
Tony<br />
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<p>At my advancing age, I don't dare to stop moving for too long... if I do, the roots will most likely set in too deep and I will be forever stuck in place!<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Frown" alt="Frown" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-frown.gif" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2026 18:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Henry Mero on Post Cody Observation....</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Ties are something We've done at the shows up here in Canada for quite a long time now. Originally the Gov't wanted a mechanical "trigger lock", but They reluctantly  relented and said ties would suffice. Apart from the obvious safety aspect they have other advantages, eg; some Moron picking up Your $20,000.00 deluxe '94 that You have there for display, right behind the "PLEASE DO NOT TOUCH" SIGN" and proceeds to do the Rifleman rapid fire test<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Yell" alt="Yell" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-yell.gif" />. I once had a guy ejected from a show for picking up and cycling a $10,000.00 Wayne Driscoll, gold inlaid, engraved miniature 1894 that I had there on display only<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Yell" alt="Yell" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-yell.gif" />. Needless to say I was pissed. I don't know why it is , but at nearly every show You attend, You will see some one pick up a gun, usually a shotgun, and point it at the ceiling, then proceed to swing it around, I guess this makes that person think They are impressing upon someone that they know how to handle a firearm<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Cool" alt="Cool" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-cool.gif" />. Many years ago at The Burford Ont. show We had someone do just that , They picked up a 12 guage , pointed it the ceiling , pulled the trigger and it discharged. Somebody across the other side of the hall yelled "OOOHHH", after which there was complete silence. Luckily there were no injuries, except the ceiling of course, and a couple of guys vanity<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Embarassed" alt="Embarassed" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-embarassed.gif" />. Oh yeah they were both ejected from the shows for quite a spell. I like the ties. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2026 15:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on Post Cody Observation....</title>
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<p><strong>Cecil Sauer said </strong><br />
Bill,<br />
Thanks a bunch for the explanation.<br />
It all makes perfect sense now, knowing what you explained.<br />
I am fine with the ties, but I can sure see cases where they would not be ideal.<br />
I appreciate the kind response to my uneducated question!<br />
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<p>Cecil, do you think you'll make it down to Texas in the Fall?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2026 12:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on Post Cody Observation....</title>
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<p><strong>TXGunNut said </strong><br />
I think gun show operators nationwide have taken notice of OGCA's misfortune and their thoughtful response. We can't depend on every gun show attendee to exercise good judgement and safe gun handling skills. I think gun shows are safer today because their operators took a hard look at their safety rules and made improvements as a result of the OGCA incident. Like it or not gun shows won't happen without insurance. If we're going to welcome the public to our shows we need to assume they know nothing about basic gun safety. Common sense isn't something we can depend on today.<br />
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<p>Well said Mike!</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2026 09:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on Gun humour!</title>
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<p>Anthony said<br />
Evidently working on another deal!!!<br />
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<p>I most likely was pondering a deal... but that is nothing new!<br />
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<p>There's no grass growing under you're feet my friend, I'm glad to see! <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" /></p>
<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2026 09:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MidwestCrisis on Gun humour!</title>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2026 02:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Gun humour!</title>
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In a way my wife bought my Henry.  I told her if she re did the recent re do of our kitchen I would buy a Henry. <br />
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<p>I have a feeling she came out waaaaaay ahead on that deal. Still a win-win in my book. <br />
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Mike<br />
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<p>You are right.  She spent way more than I did. <br />
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<p>About 30 years ago I worked for a guy who spent over $20,000 on a kitchen remodel but he and his wife went out for dinner every night, neither of them cooked. Never could figure that one out. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2026 01:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Gun humour!</title>
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<p><strong>Anthony said </strong><br />
Evidently working on another deal!!!<br />
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<p>I most likely was pondering a deal... but that is nothing new!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2026 01:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on Gun humour!</title>
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<p>Chuck said<br />
In a way my wife bought my Henry.  I told her if she re did the recent re do of our kitchen I would buy a Henry. <br />
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<p>I have a feeling she came out waaaaaay ahead on that deal. Still a win-win in my book. <br />
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Mike<br />
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<p>You are right.  She spent way more than I did. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2026 01:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><strong>Chuck said </strong><br />
In a way my wife bought my Henry.  I told her if she re did the recent re do of our kitchen I would buy a Henry. <br />
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<p>I have a feeling she came out waaaaaay ahead on that deal. Still a win-win in my book. </p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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                    <title>Chuck on Gun humour!</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>In a way my wife bought my Henry.  I told her if she re did the recent re do of our kitchen I would buy a Henry. </p>
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                    <title>Burt Humphrey on Gun humour!</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Many WACA members have heard this before - my wife gave me this decent little 66 SRC for Christmas about 30 years ago. She had some help with selection from my old friend Tommy Rholes. When I was tucking old Winchester levers she always supported me.</p>
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