Anthony #5411 said
I remember when my oldest Son, now 40 years old, was in College, years ago, and in a class in the Southern part of western Ohio, and on a scholarship. (The reason he chose that school over others was because the equipment manager, my older late friend, who we became friends with rather quickly, said if my Son picked that school, he could keep his Bow and firearms at his place off campus to deer hunt).  Anyway in class, the subject came up, because sadly, idiots we're shooting up classrooms somewhere, and all the bleeding hearts we're crying about the possibility of something happening, and not knowing what to do. After several week minded cry babies didn't have any idea on what to do or how to prevent it from happening, without the subject of removing guns, because they walk and talk and kill people, he raised his hand to draw attention, and got recognized, and told everyone of them in this left minded class room, that after barricading the door if possible with desks and such,  he would shoot and kill anyone who entered the room to do harm to anyone sitting in this class trying to learn what was being taught! DEAD SILENCE!!! He recited the Second Amendment, and how the American People of 1776 in this Country stood up against the Evil that would try to disarm them, is what this Country was and is founded on! He asked them, if they we're all gonna die like sheep, or maybe go down fighting, with a chance to survive!
Freedom isn't free, and ignorance or stupidity will always be amongst us! I'm not quiting or giving up anything!
 
Tony
  

Well said Tony. 

Lmims said
I may be the only from my generation here, and I’m new but heres and 18yr olds 2 cents. 
over the last few years there have been some rulings at the federal level to protect our basic rights to guns, but many states are restricting that down to the bare minimum back to only these near century old guns. I believe if we let that keep happening it’s only a matter of time and politics before those are gone too. I can tell you the news doesn’t show it but there’s been a big push from my generation on guns and gun rights. My father got me into the model 70 world by his love for the rifle as his gun of choice at work. And my admiration for Carlos hathcocks work with “Americas rifle”. As it stands to me that is the only way to keep our freedoms free, go teach your kids and grandkids and neighbors to shoot, shoot safely and enjoy and exercise these freedoms. Already taught your kids and grandkids? What about that neighbor across the street with the youngin? Or the orphanage always looking for outdoor opportunities? The only way to keep and preserve these things is to exercise our rights to them. 
  

I totally agree with you. I believe they will not stop until all guns are removed from our hands.

Buck94 said
This sums it up for me!
  

Exactly

Freedom isn't free, and ignorance or stupidity will always be amongst us! I'm not quiting or giving up anything!

Tony

TXGunNut said

mrcvs said

Henry Mero said
 There are lots of anti - humidity products out there like Damp-Rid , Bamboo packs ,etc., but why on earth would Youwant to keep Your guns in the garage.
  

The safe in the basement could flood, that’s why I’ve explored the garage idea.  Flooding from within and not from outside.  Even a pinhole leak from PEX tubing left unchecked could be disastrous.  They HAVE happened before but I have caught them in time.
  

Another problem with a gun safe in the basement is in the event of a fire the water used to extinguish the fire will find its way to the basement. In more extreme cases the gun safe will wind up in the basement but most safes will not protect their contents in this category of fire. If I had a house with a basement I'd give serious thought to a climate-controlled garage. Tools and other toys seem to appreciate moderate environments just as our blue steel and walnut treasures do. 
 
Mike
  

I never thought of this!  My reasoning as to the basement location is that fire works its way vertically.  Lower locations being better.  Being on a concrete base means the safe can’t fall, hence my basement location.

And so, for these reasons, independent of owning an old bank building with a vault (I would do this if I had the means), where is the best location in a house to put a safe?  I would think a one story addition like a covered and enclosed back porch addition (1 story, on a concrete slab) might be the best location, except these tend to not be heated or air conditioned.  The next best thing might be the garage, again 1 story, concrete slab, but the heating issue is a problem.  If you have more structure surrounding a safe (multiple stories), a fire could be hotter and longer.  The issue is these fire resistant safes really aren’t that for a very long period of time.

Lmims said
I may be the only from my generation here, and I’m new but heres and 18yr olds 2 cents. 
over the last few years there have been some rulings at the federal level to protect our basic rights to guns, but many states are restricting that down to the bare minimum back to only these near century old guns. I believe if we let that keep happening it’s only a matter of time and politics before those are gone too. I can tell you the news doesn’t show it but there’s been a big push from my generation on guns and gun rights. My father got me into the model 70 world by his love for the rifle as his gun of choice at work. And my admiration for Carlos hathcocks work with “Americas rifle”. As it stands to me that is the only way to keep our freedoms free, go teach your kids and grandkids and neighbors to shoot, shoot safely and enjoy and exercise these freedoms. Already taught your kids and grandkids? What about that neighbor across the street with the youngin? Or the orphanage always looking for outdoor opportunities? The only way to keep and preserve these things is to exercise our rights to them. 
  

What you say could go a long way!  It’s fine for a liberal who has never handled a firearm, grew up in an urban setting, and brainwashed by Ivy League professors to just say all guns are evil.  But put one in their hands at the range, and shoot a few rounds, and most will say, wow, that was fun!  (I a paraphrasing something I read on some forum years ago that I read somewhere).

So, getting folks interested in firearms young before the brainwashing begins could go a long way.

  I fortunately do not have first hand experience with a fire but I know a good idea when I see it. T/R 

Mine too. 

Winchester Model 94 30/30 Serial #2769698, ( sold on December 12, 1979 to Luciano's Sport Shop in Lodi, NJ.)

Looks like it was mfg. in 1964.

Thought I'd post it here as we never know.

Tony

Tony