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Just today I looked at a model 1894 in .30 WCF. It is a standard saddle ring carbine in the appropriate 1914 serial range. Like most it appears to have gum wood stocks and they match in colour and wear but the butt is a shotgun style with smooth steel buttplate. Anyone ever see a DCP marked 1892 or 1894 with a shotgun butt that looked genuine? Not that I think it is particularly valuable just thought it curious.
Mike,
I have (17) of them recorded in my survey, none of which have a shotgun butt. Additionally, all of them were manufactured in the January – March 1915 time period. Can you get the serial number for the one you looked at today?
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Hi Bert,
The serial is actually 1915, 732,077. The butt stock threw me as it has the proper smooth shotgun buttplate but has the fluted comb of the model 55.
Originally I read that these began popping up on 1894 rifles beginning in 1924 but have since seen several on model 94 rifles made up into the early 1910’s that I am convinced were correct though there is no way to verify that apart from taking one apart to check for assembly numbers on the tang.
If you are interested in pics you can PM your email and perhaps you can post them to see what others think.
Mike,
The smooth steel butt plates were available very early in the Model 1894 production. It was the serrated steel butt plates that were introduced in 1924, coincident with the Model 53 and Model 55 rifles. Please send the pictures to me at [email protected]
Thanks,
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
mike webb said
Just today I looked at a model 1894 in .30 WCF. It is a standard saddle ring carbine in the appropriate 1914 serial range. Like most it appears to have gum wood stocks and they match in colour and wear but the butt is a shotgun style with smooth steel buttplate. Anyone ever see a DCP marked 1892 or 1894 with a shotgun butt that looked genuine? Not that I think it is particularly valuable just thought it curious.
Hello Mike,
I have more than 30 DCP marked 1892’s in my survey and none of them have shotgun butt stocks.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
Michael
I have over 55 DCP Model 1892’s on my data base. No doubt you will have some I do not and vice versa.
Lets compare notes?
Regards
AlanD
Sydney
AlanD said
Michael
I have over 55 DCP Model 1892’s on my data base. No doubt you will have some I do not and vice versa.
Lets compare notes?
Regards
AlanD
Sydney
Alan,
I will send you an email with the SN’s I have.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
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