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Why am I seeing this on a 1901, Model 1892, 32-20 rifle. I have several of this vintage and older 1892’s, but have never seen this arrangement where the magazine cap is slotted into the barrel as in the photo. I do not have a 32-20 though. Is this right. Help is appreciated. Thanks!

 

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I have that slot on a full length magazine take down Winchester 1894 octagon 20″ Barrel rifle.  

I was mistaken, the slot runs the parallel with barrel to hold the level for the take down.

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Floyd…what is the serial # range of your rifle. Will it letter as a short rifle? Here are some more pictures of the rifle I am asking about. I have seen that slot in the barrel for mag cap before, but can’t remember what it was on. This rifle looks to be pretty nice, but that slot into the barrel does not look right to me. I will ask for the serial # and barrel length. It looks to have a std, 24″ barrel though. Maybe Michael or Bert, or Bob will know. Thanks

 

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Thats like the set up for a 73 in 32-20……with the mag tube end cap and the slot in the barrel….maybe old barrel in the bin that was used???  

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The slot type of magazine end plug was standard on all calibers in the early models.  It was also used on the early Model 1886’s. 

Don’t know when this type was changed to the round end plug with the long screw but I have an 1892 32-20 made in 1895 that has the slotted end plug and another 32-20 made in 1907 that doesn’t have the slotted end plug.

All my 1886’s are pre-1898 and they all have the slotted plug.

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I have a 76 and an 86 that way but none of my ’94s have the slot unless they are shorter magazines. I only have two ’92s and they are both takedowns so I cant offer any input on those. Good question though……….

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I have 3, 1892 rifles…DOM’s 1893(38-40), 1894(38-40), and 1907(25-20). They are all solid framed, and in original condition. None of them have the slotted barrel/mag cap thing.

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Michael or Chris will likely have the best answer for you as they both study the ’92s. I find it a bit strange too but I don’t focus on the them as much as the ’94s.

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In the 73’s, the 32 WCF was the only one that had the slotted end plug like that.

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Gary, what calibers are your 76 & 86 that have that slotted barrel/mag cap situation?

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My 1892 in 32WCF has a similar arrangement, SN 199497. Slot is a bit further back from the muzzle, tho.

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floyd58523 said
I have that slot on a full length magazine take down Winchester 1894 octagon 20″ Barrel rifle.    

Do you think you could post a picture of the slot on that full mag, take down, OB, 94?

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Gary, what calibers are your 76 & 86 that have that slotted barrel/mag cap situation?  

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I just quickly searched GB  and came across three 76’s in a few minutes with the slotted barrel. Two are 45-60 and one 40-60

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Good morning,

This is certainly not uncommon on the Model 1892 rifles but until now I have not noted the difference or occurrence range.  I think I am going to add yet another column to the spread sheet and begin to go back thru the thousands of image files I have thankfully saved during the past several years and hopefully that will answer some of these questions.  What is the serial number of your Model 1892 rifles so that I can capture that information?  Please note the caliber and the magazine end cap style.

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Good morning,

This is certainly not uncommon on the Model 1892 rifles but until now I have not noted the difference or occurrence range.  I think I am going to add yet another column to the spread sheet and begin to go back thru the thousands of image files I have thankfully saved during the past several years and hopefully that will answer some of these questions.  What is the serial number of your Model 1892 rifles so that I can capture that information?  Please note the caliber and the magazine end cap style.

Thanks

Michael  

Sending you a PM with my “slotted tip” 1892’s (all pre-1900).

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Sending you a PM with my “slotted tip” 1892’s (all pre-1900).  

Fantastic!!  Thanks so much for the help.  If anybody else wants please send me either a PM or email at [email protected].  Send the serial number and a photo if possible of each magazine cap.  This way I know I am recording the same info for each rifle and not varying interpretations from the owners.

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Only the small caliber 1892 rifles (and likely the carbines) are the only ones that I know of (1892’s) that have the slotted magazine cap.  I was looking through some of my old gun pics and the latest SN I have with the slotted style magazine cap is SN 183064.  12-3-2011-094.JPGImage Enlarger 

As Bob mentioned earlier, they are also found on the small caliber 1873.  Also see them on the 1886 and 1876 but I couldnt tell you if they were all that way or caliber specific.

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I looked again and have another rifle with the same magazine cap at SN 275354.  Dont have any other ones with later SN dates to see if or when there is a change to the un-slotted style. 

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Chris, What calibers were the two rifles you mentioned. Peter

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