twobit said

tionesta1 said

For your 1892 rifle survey. Saw this one on gunbroker.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=518890475

Al

I saw that rifle Al.  It is interesting that the serialization date is in 1901 but the rifle was not assembled and in the warehouse until two years later!!  During the R&R in 1912 the barrel was replaced since it has proof stamps and the caliber stamp and barrel address are both located on the left side.  The barrel is definitely not original to the rifle.  And the sights have been replaced.  A great configuration but it looses points, and value, due the non-originality and condition of the receiver.

Michael  

Although it’s a matter of personal opinion of course, I think you’re dead wrong in this assessment, if we’re interested (as most collectors claim to be) in the “human” history of a particular piece. That some previous owner took the trouble (which damned few ever did) to have his (probably “favorite”) gun returned to the factory for refurbishing and/or improvement trumps “originality” in my estimation; I don’t think this personal attention “looses points,” it should add them, if we really care about history.  I’m not “de-valuing” the importance of originality, merely pointing out that it should not be the ONLY factor worthy of consideration.

For example, I have a very well-used (though not obviously abused) ’94 with the forearm wear characteristic of having been carried a long while in a leather loop on a saddle horn, just as depicted in the paintings of Russell and other Western artists.  When I sold off all my other ’94s years ago (including some near mint examples), THIS was the one I chose to keep.  I should hope you’d be capable of understanding why.

Kind of scarce. A takedown in 44-40 from 1911. Minty bore, some case remains, but spotting on the receiver. Still, it is one of the nicest takedown 44’s I have seen.   Big Larry

Yep it’s frost/ ice… happens every few years here.  Hope this helps:

G’day Michael.

I have a PM coming your way with a bunch of 1892’s for the survey from here in Australia. Most have been for sale here in the last 3 years. Have been doing the same for Bob with his 1873 survey.

Kind regards

Chris

Michael,

Do you have this 1892 musket in your survey?  Not too many of these around…

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/winchester-rifles-antique-lever/winchester-model-1892-musket-rare-.cfm?gun_id=101107390

Don