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It’s not real high condition but, it fills in a spot in a set of 94’s.
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Paul
Paul
Those are really interesting. The 1894s have so many options to specialize in, don’t they? Neat group of rifles 8)
Brad
Thanks Brad.
Just wish I was able to take photos as good as yours. Living in an apartment building, I don’t want to be seen running in and out with rifles, especially with todays climate with reguards to firearms.
Paul
Paul
I’m in the process of getting out of the city and back to the home farm where I grew up. I don’t much care for hauling guns around in town here either.
I guess one option that may help you is shutting the flash off, then using sunlight through closed blinds, provided the blinds are a light color. You get this kind of lighting and shouldn’t need the flash:
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I guess all you can do is experiment.
Brad
Paul
By the way, this is the camera I’ve been using. This one has some problems with focusing once and awhile. I’m probably part of that problem. It can take some pretty good pictures for what it is.
I wish electronics appreciated like old Winchesters instead of going in the opposite direction twice as fast 
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Brad
Brad
To respond to your comment about so many options for the model 1894.
Yes, they seem to show up with all kinds of different configurations whether on short rifles or full size ones. Even carbines can have their share of options on them. That is the fun of it. Trying to get rifles that are different from any that you already have.
Matt
Thanks for the comment. That short rifle we exchanged e-mails about is going to be in the scarce catagory with it’s options. Hope it is as good as claimed.
Paul
Paul,
I picked up that short rifle you noted above some time ago, but completely forgot to post a photo on here. A fellow gets so busy some times I guess.
Anyway, on the rifle. It is an 1894 Take Down short rifle with a 24" part octagon barrel and full magazine. It is in caliber 30WCF. A good honest gun, with the exception of the tang sight added and improper King front sight. Not sure what the wear mark is on the receiver of from. The serial number of the gun is 879,839. That would be a 1920 as per Madis, not sure about PRR. Nice little gun, feels good when you put it up to the shoulder. Don’t see too many short rifles with a part octagon barrel and FM.
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Cool take down short rifle Matt. What’s the improper sight?
Reason I ask is my 1920 DOM 1895 Sporting Rifle had a King front sight on it that was smashed. I’ve always been looking for the right one…not the easiest thing to come by.
Brad
Hedley Lamarr said
Cool take down short rifle Matt. What’s the improper sight?Reason I ask is my 1920 DOM 1895 Sporting Rifle had a King front sight on it that was smashed. I’ve always been looking for the right one…not the easiest thing to come by.
Brad
Brad,
Well, I say say improper b/c it just doesn’t look quite right and I cannot seek to place it. I took a good look through Stroebel’s book, but can’t seem to pinpoint it, but maybe that is just me looking at old diagram’s and not being able to match them up. Maybe it is correct. Apart from the buggered screw – read more later – it does not look like it has been on / off the rifle. The thing that throws me is the sight has a screw through the left side of the base, but I can’t seem to find any King (nor can I remember seeing any) front sights with the screw. Right side of base marked DW King. It is a Gold Bead. Kinda looks like a King Gold Bead front sight, but it has that screw – as noted, buggered. Maybe someone tried to loosen it then thought better of it.
Here are some photos, maybe you have an idea. I’m not even sure it is for a Winchester, let alone a rifle. Then again, maybe it is 100% correct.
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Matt
Matt
Your sight fits the profile on page 24 here, no screw. This catalog is from
1939 maybe.
http://www.histandard.info/King/KingCatalogs/cat19/Kingcat19D44-45P200R_1280_960.html
I think you are probably on the right track in thinking it’s newer on that one, but you never know and I’ll look into it. King, Western then Redfield sights are kind of interesting. You’ll see in my project, there are King Triple Bead sights in MSA catalogs from 1905 or earlier.
Brad
Yup, that is the one. A King Spark Point Gold Bead front sight. Have to measure later to see if it is a number 15 or 16. Wondering when they started producing the Spark Point. Just looked at my Winchester "Red Book", PRR for the gun is about 1918. Maybe a later, previously drilled sight, was added later. Like I said, I have had some King sights – some nice ones – and don’t recall seeing any with the screw. Not to say some were not made that way, just that I have not seen any.
Thanks for that Brad.
Matt
Matt
You need to check out my sight project preview, last 1894 from 1917.
http://sdrv.ms/VO2VNB
I’m starting to suspect info on King sights is a little scarce before the 1920s-30s. The forerunner to your sight is pictured on page 11 of Old Gunsights. I’m thinking that’s a pretty early catalog page he used there. The King Patent Ideal Gold Bead Front Sight was patented Jan. 16, 1912, and that’s shown on page 10. That patent information can be googled, but I also have it linked on my sight project page.
The actual catalog page illustrations, from all manufacturers, I think can be a little deceiving as far a markings go. I do notice your sight is serrated up the back. I don’t know yet if that’s an early or late feature.
Brad
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